The Whatever Happened to … Post

As we prepare for the second half of the front 13 of season 3 I thought it might be fun to go back over some of the things we’re still waiting to find out about.  Inspired by Herder’s excellent post in Amy’s WTWT renewal post, I thought it deserved its own post for some rampant speculation fun this weekend.  I know, most of our twists, cons, retcons and backward reveals will never come true, but come on, this is pure Chuck fun.  After the jump.

I’m guessing Herder won’t mind if I unabashedly steal his list of things as a starting point, and if he does I’ll just mod him out of existence.  😉  JUST KIDDING!!!

– The General’s “they have to know”, havn’t seen much of the General and nothing has come up that falls into the category of something the team should have been brought up to speed on.

– The disks that were in the golden case, we heard that “with these we have a chance” then nothing since.

– Shaw’s wedding rings, specifically his wife’s, why would they be included with the disks, was it a message. Why would Shaw’s wife take her wedding ring/engagement ring on a mission then send it back. If it is part of her cover it would be missed and if not why bring it in the first place.

– “Save the world from Chuck” this was tossed out in the first episode, then never mentioned again. Is it about his ability to control the intersect or is it about some inherent quality of intersects that make them dangerous.

– Paris, we’re not done with Paris yet, I suspect that there is some connection between Orion and Paris.

– Lisbon, I think there is something with Lisbon, that is where Sarah scattered Bryce’s ashes as that was where their first mission was. Could it also be where Project Omaha was based.

– The assassin who ID’d Awesome as a spy, he is still out there, he can ID Awesome again and draw him back into the spy world.

– Chuck being able to rewire the impenetrable Ring phones, I like this and I think it is significant as it show’s Chuck’s value without flashes. I think his ability with the phones will come back to the story at some point.

– Casey’s lie about Emmitt’s death, yeah I know there are spoiler photos about this but I tend to think of it in more of the trust issue, along the lines of Mauser in Santa Claus. Also it affects Chuck’s perception of himself as part of the team.

That’s a lot of good spy stuff we can find out about, and I’m looking forward to it.  Now I’m going to add my favorites of the stuff that we saw that could come back later.

– RIOS (Also a Joe favorite).  Whatever happened to RIOS?  My theory is that it was part of Fulcrum’s Intersect project.  RIOS would be the virus that gathered all information about everyone and everything to be fed to the Fulcrum Intersect.  Will the Ring pick it up?

– Intentional Flashes.  Orion, the Intersect architect showed Chuck how to intentionally flash and break a code in Dream Job.  Since then we’ve seen Chuck be able to flash on weapons and musical instruments just by looking at them.  What other skills might Chuck be able to call upon at will?  (Like maybe the entire Kama Sutra at the end of 3.13…)

– People from the past.  Often TPTB talk about how great a guest star was and how they’d love to have them back.  Think of the possibilities if Chuck and Sarah were to run into Cole or Jill while undercover.  Could Hannah be back this season?  What about Vincent rising from the dead one last time (Although I believe TPTB did say he was dead if it wasn’t on the screen they could still do it).  Any you can think of you’d like back?

– Omaha, Lisbon, Prague.  They do keep coming up.  The Omaha project came up as early as Alma Mater in S1.  It was the project Chuck was originally tapped for that Bryce got him kicked out of Standford to avoid.  Bryce and Sarah obviously have used Omaha as a code, and at the end of vs. the Ring Orion revealed that he re-build the intersect on certain conditions, one being that the CIA leave Chuck alone.  Seems like Chuck volunteered after that though.  Hmmm.  Is he now the Omaha project, a military operation as Bryce origionally described it, might this be the dangerous side of Chuck Beckman alluded to?

With those few nuggets of fun to chew on I think I’ll just open it up to anyone who wants to chime in with their favorite dropped thread or possibility.  Besides, speaking of possibilities here’s that elusive less than 1,000 word Ernie Davis post that someone specked as a long shot, so you never know.


About Ernie Davis

I was born in 1998, the illegitimate brain child and pen name of a surly and reclusive misanthrope with a penchant for anonymity. My offline alter ego is a convicted bibliophile and causes rampant pognophobia whenever he goes out in public. He wants to be James Lileks when he grows up or Dave Barry if he doesn’t.  His hobbies are mopery, curling and watching and writing about Chuck.  Obsessively.  Really, the dude needs serious help.
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20 Responses to Dropped!

  1. Merve says:

    Random tidbits:

    – Omaha was mentioned again in “Suburbs” as the location of the CIA substation from which the bug was stolen. Later in the episode, Sylvia and Brad mention that the CIA had a program to implant intelligence into agents’ brains. I think that this is all somehow linked.

    – Characters that I’d like to see return: Bryce, but not in an “OMG he’s still alive!!!!!!111” kind of way. I’d rather see him come back in flashbacks. Ilsa, because Casey needs some lovin’. Bolonia, since we’ve only seen photos of her this season, and she hasn’t been there in the flesh. The guy from Buy More corporate who made Emmett the manager; funny stuff always happens when he’s around.

    – Given that Chuck has the potential to flash on codes, could Chuck use the Intersect to circumvent other sorts of security devices?

    – We don’t know that the Ring assassin is still out there. He could have been captured or killed later. I don’t think that he’ll be making a reappearance, but I might be wrong.

    – I think that the wrist computer and RIOS are just dropped story lines that we’re never going to see again.

    – I’m thinking that the whole “protect the world from Chuck” deal has to with some sort of built-in Hulk-like functionality in the Intersect. Maybe it gets triggered if Chuck gets too angry.

    – Do you think that Casey will ever reveal to Chuck that he was ordered to eliminate the Intersect? What would happen if Sarah found out?

    • kg says:

      Yeah Merve

      Remember the declassified scene on disc 1 of season two?

      Apparently, it would have been after Colt drilled Casey in the face. Sarah poured some frozen yogurt in a big for the side of John’s face.

      She sits down next to him. “Casey, have you heard anything from Beckman or Graham? Do I have any reason to worry….about Chuck.”

      “You mean do they want him dead,” Casey asked? “No, Sarah, you have nothing to worry about.” He gets up quickly (after his outright lie) and leaves the Orange Orange.

      Sarah just remains seated with a look of absolute horror planted on her pretty face.

      • Merve says:

        I remember that scene, but since it wasn’t in the episode itself, I’m not sure that we can accept it as canon.

  2. anonymous says:

    Who was that person in corporate that called Morgan and “practically begged” him to take his job back? Anyone want to bet Hannah works for BuyMore and is trying to figure out what in heaven’s name is going on? I mean, Chuck hasn’t gotten a sign-off on an off-site install since that Chinese defector in Sizzling Shrimp…

    • Merve says:

      I’ve had this ridiculous theory that Hannah was sent as a spy from Buy More corporate to investigate Chuck Bartowski’s mysterious offsite installs, but that seems too silly, even for this show.

      • kg says:

        Why not? In their own realm corporations are ruthless. Especially when it concerns 11-dollars per hour employees.

        I work for a Las Vegas casino. They always attack the lowest employees when the fat has to be trimmed so to speak, instead of actually trimming the fat.

  3. Marvin says:

    If it was Shaw’s wife he lost 5 years ago, then the data on those disks is woefully out of date. If the ring is being used as a verifier of authenticity, then what does that suggest (the Ring?) There’s something about this that doesn’t add up…

    • anonymous says:

      How about this: Shaw’s wife was “lost,” not to death, but the Ring. As a goodbye present, she erases all evidence of Shaw from the Ring files and put them on the disks and sends her ring back. Which would explain some of the guy’s report at the end of 3.07.

      But very little of ANYTHING since Shaw’s introduction has made a lot of sense. And so even if LizJames’ con theory isn’t totally true, there is a lot of stuff that simply doesn’t square.

  4. Marvin says:

    Something that I wondered about in “Mask” is that Shaw called for the intersect to get him out of the vault. I wonder if Shaw is even aware that the computer skills that Chuck is exhibiting are not from the intersect; from hot-wiring the Rings cell phones to getting Shaw out of the vault, Chuck hasn’t been accessing the intersect for many of his breakthroughs.

    • herder says:

      Marvin, I thought you made a great point, Shaw had called for the intersect, not Chuck, I actually went back to the exact words “Please tell me the intersect isn’t busy”. Sarah or Casey would have asked for Chuck, Shaw asked for the intersect, a tool not a partner or a collegue. Shaw does not view Chuck as Sarah or Casey do, not even as the General does but a tool that he can use against the Ring. Someone to be used in his greater fight, not a person to be valued on their own merits. This will play out over the next few episodes.

  5. JC says:

    Was Papa B working for the CIA or NSA?. If so why didn’t Beckman connect the dots between him and Chuck. Was Bartowski a cover name?

    What was the difference between the Intersects being developed by Roarke and the one by Fulcrum in the suburbs episode.

    How was Chuck able to handle the Fulcrum intersect in vs Suburbs.

    I’m hoping some of these will be answered when Bakula returns.

  6. Mike B says:

    The last time we saw Awesome he was running through the courtyard with the tickets from Paris. Has Ellie received an acceptable explanation for his behavior?

    I would love to see the return of Roan and of course Jack Burton and the one and only Harry Tang.

    • joe says:

      Me too! Oh! Add Vincent (Agent Imhotep) to that list!

      Maybe it’d be easier to list the characters we don’t need to see come back!

    • kg says:

      I’m also a Roan fan. I don’t think I have to sell anybody on another Carina return. Not only is she hot, but wild things seem to happen in her episodes.

  7. joe says:

    I’m thinking that most of Chuck’s flashes in S3 have been “on demand”. Forced flashes, as Stephen called them. The original flashes seemed to happen randomly if Chuck had the proper stimulus. Now, though not 100% reliable, he’s flashing when he needs to, like when trapped in the cargo hold of a 747 with only Yale’s fencing foils to help him.

  8. prechuck says:

    Hello all,

    I would love to see Harry Tang come back. I have been waiting to see more of the, “must protect the world from Chuck” story threads. Also, any more connections that Chuck’s family has to the spy world. This may be addressed in 3.17-3.19 when Scott Bakula returns and they have a flashback to young Ellie and Chuck. This may reveal alot about why Mom disappeared and Stephen’s role in that. The TPTB said that that next season would not revolve around the romantic subplot, maybe the family issues become more important.

    • joe says:

      Hi, prechuck.
      I have an inkling that you’re right about 3.17-3.19. Family *will* be important.

    • amyabn says:

      I’m hoping this means that the romantic subplot has been resolved (they are together) and it is moved to the background (the little moments we all enjoy-fixing a tie, a look, “hand porn” lol) and we get on to the family dynamic that has been sorely lacking this season. More family dinners, visits from the family (Bartowskis, Awesomes, Jack Burton, Carina-she may not be Sarah’s real sister but she is family).

  9. Emily says:

    Whatever happened to Fulcrum? Did they drop off the face of the earth? It seems team B is only dealing with the Ring now. Or are they using the Ring as a collective term?
    Also, I never bought Sarah’s Bryce story. Would love to see a follow up.
    And the return of Anna as an agent would be epic!!!!

    • weaselone says:

      I think we were supposed to assume that their operations were severely crippled by the team last season and that thereafter the Ring probably eliminated any remaining loose ends either by reallocating competent agents into new, smaller cells are by termination as they did with Roark.

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