Speculation Post: Chuck vs. Phase Three

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The synopsis is unremarkable:

11/22/2010 (08:00PM – 09:00PM) (Monday) : CHUCK’S SECRETS AND SANITY ARE THREATENED, LEADING SARAH TO SET OFF ON A ROGUE MISSION–RICHARD CHAMBERLAIN GUEST STARS–Chuck (Zachary Levi), Sarah (Yvonne Strahovski), Casey (Adam Baldwin) and Morgan (Joshua Gomez) venture into the jungles of Southeast Asia when The Belgian (guest star Richard Chamberlain) attempts to unravel the secrets of the Intersect. Meanwhile, Captain Awesome (Ryan McPartlin) and Ellie (Sarah Lancaster) try to decipher a secret left behind by her father. Scott Krinsky, Vik Sahay, Mark Christopher Lawrence and Bonita Friedericy also star.

But the visuals* aren’t. From scenes of PDA (albeit of dream sequence variety?) to Sarah rising from a river holding a knife—to say that this episode will be badass is understating it.

What we know: we know that Chuck’s been abducted. It always seems to come back to the intersect doesn’t it? Except this time, without Sarah and Casey (not to mention a functioning intersect) Chuck has no “safety net.” But Chuck wouldn’t be Chuck, if he didn’t get out of jams with the help of his family and friends.

Be scared, be very scared.

I think we’ll find in this episode that Chuck is more than just a damsel (mansel?) in distress. Not certain how but it’ll be fun. Let’s hope this happens before his memories are completely erased. A Chuck without connections and ties would be intriguing (read: ultimate villain!) but without heart he wouldn’t be nearly as effective.

Anyways, spec away!

*promo breakdowns are extremely spoilery, you’ve been warned lol. Thanks to @sarge_87 for the pics.

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92 Responses to Speculation Post: Chuck vs. Phase Three

  1. Tynianrex says:

    My speculation: Sarah is going to wear very little for the most part of the episode. Of that, I’m sure.

  2. amyabn says:

    the promo part where the door is getting shut on Chuck at the apartment and he yells out will be the point that Sarah finds him in reality.

    I keep wondering if Ellie will know that Chuck is missing. I’d love to see Sarah making the tough decision to go tell her, Ellie sees her in such pain/fury, and then ellie makes her “buck up” with the “You’re a Bartowski” speech. Snap Sarah back into Agent Walker mode to go search and destroy until she finds Chuck! I really would love to also see Ellie being brought into the Intersect part of the story.

    • herder says:

      Amy, I think the door part has a dream like quality to it, sort of like when Shaw appeared in the Tooth. Chuck’s nightmare is that he goes home and nobody is there, they have left and he is all alone.

      One thing that I am looking forward to is for someone else to see the Sarah Walker that we all see. Morgan with his little man-crush on Chuck will see what full out love is, how far Sarah is willing to go for Chuck and what she is willing to sacrifice. Next time there is a difference of opinion and Chuck asks if Morgan is on his side, I think he gets a different answer.

      It’s funny, I thought of Ellie’s “you’re a Bartowski, act like one” speech yesterday. I don’t think Sarah needs it as she is already acting like a Bartowski and she won’t stop until she is sucessful.

      One other spec, is about the intersect, what I was thinking is maybe he has two intersects in his head now, 2.0 and phase 3. Maybe it’s not that he can’t flash, but rather they are working against each other and cancelling each other out. He’s in a situation, the 2.0 tries to flash on a skill to get him out at the same time as phase 3 is tring to give him info to get out of danger, they cancel each other out and he gets neither.

      Finally, what if any connection is there between DeSmet and Volkov, apparantly they are going to Burma, wasn’t that where Volkov’s arms smuggling pipeline was as per Goya and Chandler.

      • Tamara Burks says:

        I like that theory. I think that what makes the two Intersects have trouble reconciling is the fact that someone messed with 2.0 . In the Ring 1, it was either Bryce or Papa B who said something about the intersect had been changed.

        If Mama B didn’t realize know that then she might not have realized what the effect of the psp would have on him.

    • Ernie Davis says:

      I think it’s actually Thailand, but you are right, Heather mentioned her time with Frost/Volkoff in Thailand. The fact that both Frost and de Smet know that Agent Charmichael is the intersect wasn’t lost on me either, but we don’t know that Volkoff knows what Frost knows about Carmichael and the intersect. I think there is some sort of connection. de Smet’s probable imminent demise at the hands of a leggy Valkyrie in little clothing may be what clues Volkoff into the fact that Carmichael isn’t dead yet. Or perhaps de Smet contacts Frost and/or Volkoff with an offer to sell him the intersect and that raises some flags, leading to a post Thanksgiving visit to Burbank. Intriguing possibilities that may clarify Frost’s loyalties and relationship with Volkoff.

      • thinkling says:

        My first thought is that de Smet is an opportunistic bad guy who fell into a pot of jam at the diamond auction. I don’t think he is linked with Volkoff … or not directly. They probably know each other’s reps, but no direct dealings so far (just spit-balling here). One deals in information and the other in weapons. However, the Intersect is a crossover item that could be sold on two markets (really big pot of jam), so de Smet could put the offer out to weapon’s dealers like, Volkoff.

        That would definitely tip MamaB to Chuck’s danger. Does Volkoff know about Carmichael and the Intersect? I don’t think so. (I paid close attention to Chuck’s flashes, and neither time was Volkoff in a position to see them.) I think to Volkoff Carmichael was a pathetic Orion protégé who was starting to cause him grief and had to be eliminated.

        Somehow through bad guy channels, b/c of de Smet’s new product, Volkoff will learn that the Intersect host was an unfortunate CIA agent named Carmichael. Then things will begin to fall into place. Volkoff will figure stuff out. This will compromise Frost’s cover and the Bartowski family. Thus the set-up for “Leftovers.”

        Sound reasonable?

      • jason says:

        you would think volkov will have to get to that dinner somehow without mary’s approval, I can think of no mission related reason why mary would risk letting volkov meet or know about ellie & devon. If she brings him to ellie’s home as a guest, that would seem ccompletely OOC with the women who executed 3 co-workers in 4×1, although …

        but, the writers have been very good with the volkov story so far, they may have something pretty clever ‘cooked’ up for thanksgiving.

        There is a fedak interview about the back 11 on zapit I believe, he makes it sound like the ‘payoff’ is on the back 11 for things set up on the front 13 … as much as I complain about CS’s angst, I hope he does mean CS in this case, at least that would mean they won’t do some really odd CS reset.

        http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2010/11/chuck-co-creator-chris-fedak-on-the-back-11-ellie-mom-and-more.html

    • thinkling says:

      You know, Amy, I’ve been wondering about that all season. Do they not notice how much Chuck is gone?

      I don’t think they’ll chat, but it would be fun for Ellie to see commando Sarah headed out with her duffel bag full of automatic weapons, and ask, “Sarah, have you seen my brother?” With no time to explain, Sarah just says, “Uh, I’m on my way to pick him up now, Ellie.” Then close in of Ellie’s face. From that alone Ellie could begin to suspect stuff which would lead her to inspect the Mustang.

      The door look dream-like, and to me the kiss frame also looks like part of his dream-state or subconscious. I hope it becomes significant in some way.

  3. JC says:

    I’m hoping we get another Bakula voice over from the Orion Computer that brings Ellie into the spy world.

    And since the promo already had references to Kickboxer, Apocalypse Now and Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind I expect a lot more.

    • alladinsgenie4u says:

      It is always great to hear Papa B’ voice – even if it’s a recorded message.

      I really hope that the Buy More scenes are just one or two max. There are already two different plots going on – rescue mission by Sarah et al and secret deciphering by Ellie/Devon.

      I am with a lot of fans who think that Chuck should do something himself to try and get out – but from the promos, it looks like he is heavily sedated and in no position to do anything. Although, it would be awesome if the Intersect is restored to full capacity in the nick of time. But I doubt that it will happen. If the writers have thrown in a red herring in the form of “emotional rock” then hopefully Ellie has the solution to the problem by the end of the episode.

      • JC says:

        Honestly I hope there’s zero BuyMore scenes, this episode should be solely focused on Chuck and Sarah.

      • thinkling says:

        I agree about no Buymore this time. It will be an intense episode, as it should be. And with Morgan on the mission, I don’t see much reason for any Buymore at all.

      • atcdave says:

        Since the main cast is all leaving the country, there will likely be little or no Buy More. But even Honeymooners had a brief Buy More scene. I would bet no Buy More sub-plot this week, but that doesn’t mean we won’t see it at all. For the record, I would be perfectly happy to see the store go away; but I think it’s a signature part of the show and that will never happen.

      • herder says:

        Well as Jeff, Lester and Big Mike are all listed as being in this episode I think that there is likely to be some Buy More. How much and in what context I don’t know, maybe Awesome and Ellie after finding the computer try to speak to Chuck at the Buy More and can only get the other three. Finding out that Chuck Sarah Casey and Morgan regularly leave for extended periods of time may clue them into Chuck’s real occupation.

  4. jason says:

    A read some spec that ellie reboots chuck remotely, once she finds the computer.

    I tend to think the chuck alone scene will preceed the CS kiss scene, and sarah’s image in chuck head will serve as an intersect ‘spirit guide’ to help chuck reboot.

    I would so love sarah to show up just as chuck finishes off the bad guys, the oft used line, what took you guys so long from clueless chuck. Think casey or morgan (or the fans) would mind if sarah tackled him and made mad passionate love to him on the spot.

    If sarah has to rescue him is the way it plays out, that opens up all kinds of whiney, angsty story lines, that I hope we get past soon, had off and on 4 seasons of the role reversal stuff, maybe it will all end with 4.9 and chuck will finally man up.

  5. jason says:

    Faith or anyone else that might know, I thought I read that EPK’s were going to be released for 4×9, any truth to that?

  6. Ofer says:

    I am still trying to figure out how Chuck gets the intersect back. I would assume that is is a new version, but then what more could they add?

    My thoughts are that the PSP created a new operating system per se, and the laptop is the new data (the flash mechanism is there, but no instructions). I can rationalize that Mama and Papa B split the two components for security reasons, but why would they want Ellie involved in the spy game? I would also add that neurology would likely play a role, but I wish they would have mentioned it again in the last few episodes.

    I am pretty sure the “Rye Hypothesis” is completely wrong and would like Chuck to repeat his gondola revelation at one point. I like the idea passed around numerous forums that Chuck will do something Chuck-like to rescue himself and/or Sarah, as long as it doesn’t cheapen the efforts BAMF Sarah made in finding him.

    Sorry for rambling, I don’t think I have anticipated an episode of Chuck as much as this.

    • atcdave says:

      I think we’re all pretty excited right now. As I said last week, the preview was the best 30 seconds of the night.

    • thinkling says:

      The whole binary solution, with the PSP being the OS and the laptop being the data makes sense to me. The split for security also makes sense. For one thing, he’s been flashing perfectly, but there’s no data. So, it’s totally different from the s3 Intersect malfunction.

      Someone, don’t remember who, suggested that perhaps there is anti virus in the new MamaB implant … something that might protect him from de Smit’s mind wipe. That would be kind of cool as well.

      What could they add? Well an auto database update program would be usefull. At some point the info in the Intersect is outdated and incomplete. I’ve considered an on-demand geographically sensitive information database as well, based on GPS coordinates. Perhaps a smoother faster OS. And many have suggested a way to burn some of those skills into muscle memory, so that for certain frequently used skills, he doesn’t have to flash any more. Some sort of anti-tampering protection for both the Intersect and Chuck’s brain.

  7. JC says:

    I’m going to copy part of my spec from the Roundtable post since seems more of appropriate place for it.

    Is the PSP the Intersect version 3.0(Phase three) an emergency plan in case Volkoff got too close to their children? At the time it was created Orion and Frost didn’t know that Chuck uploaded the 2.0 so the newer version is clashing with it. But once Orion found out that Chuck uploaded the 2.0 he left a fix the computer with the most logical candidate, Ellie. So what does the 3.0 do? If we go back to the finale again Orion said that with him gone the people he was protecting Chuck and Ellie from would come after them. After he removed the first Intersect he probably believed Chuck would be left alone without Sarah and Casey. So it would leave Chuck and Ellie defenseless, it would make sense this new Intersect would have self defense capabilities. The changes he made to the 2.0 probably gave him the idea for this.

    I’m thinking it’s an upgraded version of the 2.0, that certain skills like Kung Fu and basic spy craft will be permanently imprinted on Chuck’s brain. Why permanently? Orion knows better than anyone the limits of Intersect tech and he would want Chuck to have those abilities if something went wrong with it.

    In addition it probably has the same information from government, Orion’s files and maybe some information about the Bartowski family.

  8. rac2873 says:

    Chuck is not dreaming I think he is being drugged so they can have dream Sarah remove the emotional block affecting the intersect.

    They are trying to break him down by tricking his mind.

    • herder says:

      What about the possibility that the intersect, being unable to work on his conscious mind, starts working on his unconscious mind like last year through his dreams. In Tooth, he dreamed that Shaw was back, maybe here he dreams something else important to his survival, maybe something that Sarah has said to him in the past, a dream Sarah guiding him to the realization that he has it within himself to get free.

      • atcdave says:

        That’s an appealing option, so rather than being “the rock” blocking the Intersect, she’d be the lever to pry it open!

    • Anonymous says:

      I think they are trying to suppress (sp?) his conscious mind so that he will just be the intersect Then they can get him to divulge the data. Sort of like the Psychics in Minority Report.

      • alladionsgenie4u says:

        I agree with this. When Chuck told de Smet that the Intersect was gone, he didn’t believe him at all. My guess is that the bad guys will try to get the Intersect working by any means only to find that it is currently suppressed beneath Chuck’s feelings and memories of Sarah and his family. So, to counter that they decide to lobotomize him – thereby removing his memories and feelings – leaving only the computer behind. – It’s a really scary scenario – if the bad guys are successful ( they will not be) then what remains would be a robot in a man’s body – efficient in following orders and flashing at will – a weapon of sorts.

        Or

        When Chuck asked the Belgian what he wanted, he said he wanted the Intersect. Maybe the bad guys are interested in taking out the Intersect from Chuck’s brain and transferring it into some device (type of like Manoosh’s sunglasses) for easy access by enemy agents. But they are not able to access it due to the emotional rock (memories of/feelings for Sarah) hence their decision to lobotomize Chuck.

        *point to ponder* – the above two speculations only hold water if TPTB are going with the “emotional rock” as the Intersect Inhibitor. If the Intersect malfunction is something technical, then lobotomizing Chuck wouldn’t solve the problem at all.

      • atcdave says:

        You do bring up an interesting possibility; maybe Frost hid the Intersect, mainly to hide it from the baddies who were after it. Chuck loosing the use of it was simply an unavoidable consequence.

      • thinkling says:

        I’m of a mixed mind on this.

        Part of me thinks the Intersect block has nothing to do with emotions at all and everything to do with MamaB’s device. The other part of me would like for dream Sarah to unblock the Intersect.

        The combo of this could be that the problem isn’t emotional — it’s the PSP. Sarah comes into play by being his tether to sanity during the Belgian’s attempt to lobotomize Chuck. She becomes the anchor for his memories.

        I don’t know if something the Belgian does or something Sarah does in his mind might trigger the 1.0 again … just enough for him to get free and break away. Or perhaps he would be lucid enough, long enough to think of a way of escape. Then Sarah would be there to finish the rescue. This would preserve his spy dignity as well as remind him how much he needs Sarah and his team.

  9. Jen says:

    YOUZA! that’s what i thought when i saw teh promo for Monday’s ep. I SERIOUSLY have never felt this much anticipation for a new Chuck ep, and trust me… i feel lots of anticipation for all things Chuck!
    I can’t wait to see Sarah comign out of the water withteh knife between her teeth. Pure Kickassery!

    ok… gotta get back to work now!

    • joe says:

      Me too, Jen. I’ve have a very weird feeling that this is going to be a very, exceptionally, epically (!) dramatic episode (or two).

      • thinkling says:

        I expect so, too, Joe. Two dramatically epic episodes. I do hope that at least Chuck’s Intersect situation is resolved this week. I would prefer a bit of a breather from the cliff-hanger endings.

    • Bellatrix says:

      Me too! This episode will probably be loaded with all kinds of great action scenes (especially with sarah in lioness/terminator mode). Im impatient to get to know what phase 3 is all about.
      I just hope it doesnt end up like most of the soap operas here (the main character looses his/her memory, is tricked by the mean guys and then he/she suddenly remembers before its too late making the most ridiculous scene possible which somehow makes everything alright again). My worries are based on the fact that the writers have started to use these soap resources (like the many comming back from the grave scenes… Larking, shaw and for a moment orion) we are only missing the memory loss, finding some familiar in unexpected circumstances (does frost count?) and the love intrest of the main character dying accidentaly(or incidentaly)
      I really hope the writers dont ruin chuck by over using those resources but anyway im comfident that they wont (maybe my writing is a bit confusing so to make it clearer… Im expecting something amusing without turning it into another annoying soap opera)
      I tend to know much about soaps because unfortunatly that is what most of my local (argentina) tv production is based on.
      How long till Chuckday? (who has ever heard of monday?)

      • atcdave says:

        You’re scaring me Bellatrix! We’ve seen all those same cliches here too. But I think you’re right that they will come up with something better than that.

    • Jen says:

      Patience Jenny… Patience…
      We’ll see how they develop the story. As long as Chuck and Sarah are engaged by the end of S4 i’m good 😉

    • herder says:

      “Some of that is now in the back 11” would that be the resolution of the Mama B good/bad question or the engagement that has been pushed into the back 11.

      Also if you read the rest of that article it says that they will be going into Sarah’s back story, whether that is in the next few episodes or the back 11 is not clear but that should be interesting.

      • thinkling says:

        Or we may know that MamaB is good, but still have Volkoff at large.

      • atcdave says:

        I was just assuming any Sarah story would be back 11, they had said before the season they weren’t doing any Sarah background this season, so I take that as change.

        I bet we’ll know mamaB is a good guy soon, Volkoff may get extended. I certainly hope the engagement doesn’t get put off; perhaps they intended to do a finale wedding scene if they didn’t get extended. Now they can develop that properly in the back part of the season.

      • thinkling says:

        I certainly hope the engagement doesn’t get put off; perhaps they intended to do a finale wedding scene if they didn’t get extended. Now they can develop that properly in the back part of the season.

        Thanks for speaking my mind, Dave. Turn about is fair play 😉

      • alladinsgenie4u says:

        @dave and thinkling – I am hoping against hope that they dont postpone the engagement and go for it by 4×13 at the latest. Enough emotional build up has been made and come 4×09 it will only increase – I am different without Chuck – has huge meaning(IMHO)

        But, if they do postpone it to the back 11 and concentrate on Mama B and Ellie’s baby for now – I hope they do some solid build up to it (engagement). I believe no more epiphanies are necessary now for C/S to take that step. It would be lovely if the engagement happened in a Jack Burton episode (if we get one)

      • jason says:

        don’t hold your breath guys, lois and clark recently were announced as the next tv couple to get engaged by some spoiler site, over blair and chuck, a couple not mentioned in the starting dozen, chuck and sarah

      • atcdave says:

        Jason, that only proves that TPTB for Chuck are better at keeping a lid on it. I admit, I don’t see a good reason for it. An engagement is exactly the sort of thing to generate buzz which Chuck needs, butI still expect it in the front arc.

        Besides, I don’t think beating Lois and Clark is even possible, since last week ended with Clark approaching Lois while holding a ring, I expect they will be engaged tonight.

  10. Faith says:

    Promo #2. A must see.

    “I’m different without Chuck, and I don’t like it”

    :-O

    • atcdave says:

      That’s an awesome preview. I’m just a little excited. Good thing its already Monday (ummm, can saying it make it so??)

      • Faith says:

        I wish. If only I could get my hand one some plutonium…and well a Delorean lol.

        I had goosebumps when I heard that line!

      • thinkling says:

        Yeah, goosebumps head to toe. Short promo, but so worth it. Makes me wonder what comes before that line.

      • Bellatrix says:

        Great promo, its like they wanted to drive the fandom into stareing at the calendar in record time. (as if we werent doing it already)
        Well, I finally finished college so i have LOTS of free time for speculation, which only makes the wait longer (since I live in argentina both the season and the school times are inverted in respect to those in the north hemisphere)
        Go chuckday! (the best way to make those bitter mondays sweet)

    • Tamara Burks says:

      Excellant bit of perception by our Agent Walker with that line!

      • joe says:

        Gee! You hit on something here, Tamara. She is different without Chuck.

        And we don’t want to see that difference too much! With luck, it’ll be our one chance to explore and understand it.

    • amyabn says:

      Did Sarah really have Casey locked up in a holding cell? Morgan to the rescue on that? Can’t wait!!!!

      • thinkling says:

        Now, I really want to know what happened before. How did we get from “we’ll go together” and “thank you” to Sarah locking Casey in a holding cell?

        Lioness Sarah roars!

        Three more days?!?!

      • thinkling says:

        I guess they needed Sarah solo for part of the episode, and this was the best way?

      • herder says:

        Exciting as that clip is I don’t think that Sarah is locking Casey in the Castle, but rather it is a part of an arguement between them about the methods that she is using on the guy that they are holding in the cell (see the first clip). Sarah has taken the attitude that nothing is off limits in her effort to find Chuck, she doesn’t like it but that’s the way it has to be.

      • thinkling says:

        @Herder: in that context it really is a loaded statement. She is different without Chuck on so many levels, and she doesn’t like any of them.

        So, she’s gonna kill this guy, 200 times if necessary, to get her Chuck back. That’s Sarah without Chuck, both without-him-at-all without him and missing-him without him.

        Context is everything.

      • joe says:

        I tried to look at this frame by frame. What looks like bars (as in, a cell) also looks like rifle barrels. And right after that, as Sarah walks away, it looks like Case is behind a wall pulling on something (right hand down, left hand up), or maybe retrieving a gun from a wall-mounted case.

        It’s hard to say but I don’t think he’s in a holding cell either.

    • jason says:

      “I’m different without Chuck, and I don’t like it”

      not that her line was meant to mean this, but what a wonderful self-description of sarah without chuck in season 3’s misery arc

    • herder says:

      After this episode Chuck will never be able to echo Ellie’s “I feel I’ve got two feet in and you’ve only got one foot in” as he might have been able to in suitcase. Sarah Walker is jumping in with both feet (and her two fists).

    • odysszeuss says:

      Casey # holding cell # “I’m different without Chuck, and I don’t like it”

      AWESOME

  11. Rac2873 says:

    Sarah is fuming. Yvonne is going to bring her A game and what a great epiphany by her. Chuck changed her for good and without him she feels lost. I cannot wait to watch this. I have viewed the promos over and over and can’t get over the emotion in Sarah. We wanted the lioness and we are going to get her.

    I can’t wait to see each of them fighting for each other. Chuck will be fighting an emotional battle for his sanity and Sarah will be fighting a physical battle. Such an Epic Love story. 🙂

    • jason says:

      rac – nice – yep – what you said

    • Joseph (can't be Joe) says:

      They should have promoted the snot out of this episode. Put it on radio. Hire planes with banners. Buy time on other networks. Flood the internet with advertisements. Run the promos repeatedly at any store you can by a TV.

      You get the idea. 🙂

  12. jason says:

    for any of you wanting to be slightly spoiled, check out this interview with robby mcneil – as many of you know, I am too spiteful toward TPTB – I know it is wrong, but it honestly is how I feel, but mcneil’s interview left me much more assured for CS’s future?

  13. rac2873 says:

    That was a really good interview.

    I loved what he said about Chuck and Sarah. Also another producer states that Chuck and Sarah are the show.

    I am very assured about Chuck and Sarah this season. Sarah going off the rails for her man is such an awesome story line. The consumate professional says the hell with it when it comes to Chuck’s safety.

    • atcdave says:

      That really is an awesome story. It’s funny because Sarah has put Chuck above duty on occasion, going all the way back to Marlin. But every time she gets more overt about it. This time there’s no hesitation, no soul searching; it’s pretty simple, Chuck’s been taken, she’s going to get him, orders don’t figure into it.

    • kg says:

      She began to come out of her malaise in Final Exam when Chuck confronted her at the stakeout. And then she lost it when she thought HE killed the mole.

      Chuck himself at the end of American Hero and with a big nudge from Casey, she was OK.

      My point is the Lioness Sarah we have seen and the one we’re about to see Monday, that Sarah was cemented as far back as Subway. “Everything I care about is right here.”

      Help her find and rescue CHUCK (her life, her home, her heart) or get the hell out of the way.

  14. RobertH says:

    Saw the promos. Sarah is going to kick butt while
    “rescuing” her man. Looks very exciting and of course I will watch it. But as I said in an earlier
    post, if she pulls this off and Chuck does nothing
    to help himself on his own, demonstating he can stand on his own two feet without the intersect or
    her for that matter, it’s going to look very, very
    bad no matter how exciting it may be to watch.

    No man with any self respect likes the “mansel in
    distress” thing especially after Sarah verbally
    castrated Chuck in 4.8-re the video conference where
    she made him look bad in front of his colleagues
    commenting brutally but truthfully on his lack of
    spy competence without the interscect.

    I know I’m way in the minority of opinion on this
    issue but that’s the way I feel about it. At this stage I simply don’t have any real sympathy for
    Chuck as a character. He looks weak, wimpy, pitiful,
    and feminine, a complete reversal of roles. I have
    no problems with a strong female character but not
    at a male character’s expense and with them it happens consistently. The balance needs to be restored and maybe it will be in this upcoming episode but Chuck needs to show something here or the show is going to run into problems with its male
    audience and maybe its female audience too.

    We’ll have to wait and see but the promos do look
    exciting, not necessarily satisfying, but certainly
    exciting, thanks.

    • herder says:

      Naw, if my guess is correct what we will see is lioness Sarah get to Chuck after going through several layers of obstacles, then get captured. Sarah in danger will cause Chuck to flash, or not, and save the day. Then you have Chuck and Sarah together fight their way back to Morgan and Casey and the team fight their way to freedom. This way you get Sarah sacrificing all, Chuck instrumental in both saving Sarah and himself and the team together saving the day. Just my guess, but it covers all bases.

    • armySFC says:

      I agree with you on this one. Chuck has been returned to season 1 Chuck. He blows the mission getting the diamond because of fear. Sarah hit him where it hurt the most, telling him he is not a spy. He needs to do something on his own to get back in the game, this could be his chance. As for my speculation, Sarah saves Chuck and we get 3-4 episodes of angst as they work out the fall out from that line. What i would like to see is while trying to remove Chuck’s memories it resets the intersect allowing Chuck to escape and meet the team. I’m done with the whole intersect not working thing, its the third time in less than a year they have trotted out this theme. True there are differences but the end is the same, Chuck is a Dud with out it.

  15. Rac2873 says:

    Sarah didn’t castrate. She doesn’t want him to go into a dangerous situation alone unprepared. Chuck has zero experience with this kind of mission without the intersect. Sarah did not want a dead boyfriend so she did whatever she could to stop Chuck from going alone.

    Lets see Bryce went in solo and he was a superspy in every sense and he died. If that could happen to Bryce Sarah knows if she did not voice her opinions Chuck could wind up dead as well.

    • kg says:

      I agree. Sarah quickly regretted her choice of words. Her intention was not to “castrate” her man.

      And she knows Chuck is both brave and heroic with or without the intersect. She’s seen it. She’s admitted it. And Chuck should know on his own that she believes that.

      Watch the episode. Even though she objected to him going, she understood the mission was important and that Chuck was “willing to try.” She told Casey the latter is what worried her the most.

      The issue for her was not so much trying to be a hero without the intersect, or “doing whatever it took” to make it work again. Her biggest problem was going on the mission without the “safety net.” Without some backup. With a crazy agent who’s methods were “unorthodox.”

      And Sarah herself correctly pointed out that all of Rye’s previous attempts to scare the crap out of Chuck were unsuccessful in restoring the intersect. Sarah knew this venture was going to end in disaster, for Chuck and her. Turns out she was absolutely right.

  16. Tamara Burks says:

    I think I’d like it if Chuck manages to get free sans Intersect and ioens the door to escape and runs into Sarah and company running in to rescue Chuck. Kind of a meeting halfway situation since Chuck wouldn’t know where to get out of the country without the Intersect.

  17. rac2873 says:

    Chuck does not need to physically save himselve. The danger he faces is a mental one. I want Sarah to save him. I cannot see Chuck kicking but sans intersect.

    • Tamara Burks says:

      He wouldn’t necessarily have to kick butt. Maybe just whack someone over the head with something and sneak around past anyone who could put up a serious fight. That guy they had working on him in the promo was probably a scientist not a fighter and if he thinks Chuck is completely unconcious he won’t be prepared.

      Plus it’s been proven that Chuck is a great shot without the Intersect. This might be the ep where he really kills someone especially if somebody gets the drop on Sarah.

  18. Robert H says:

    First to the runners of this site, thanks for taking
    care of my request yesterday. I really appreciate it. All of you do such a great job. Enjoy your
    Thanksgiving weekend.

    Second with all due respect to the people who disagreed with my post. I fully realize I’m in the
    minority of opinion regarding my description of Sarah “castrating” Chuck’s ego in the previous episode, 4.8. However I think I will stand by it for
    the time being. Regardless of whatever legitimate
    concern she had for his safety and regardless of her
    regret later on, that is just exactly what she did,
    and with it a great deal of damage. No man who has
    any self respect could ever accept that and then forget about it without reestablishng the balance in
    their relationship. Whatever her intentions, no matter what the motivation, she disrespected him with
    the remark about his spy competence and to make it
    even worse she did it publicly in front of his
    professional colleagues and boss. It was simply
    unacceptable and if he ultimately doesn’t call her
    on it one way or another he eventually will lose
    her (not to mention everyone else’s) respect.

    The fact that she felt bad about it afterwards and blamed herself for pushing him into a situation he couldn’t handle with her remark regarding his spy
    competetence will not erase the damage and it will
    not be forgotten. Ultimately forgiven perhaps but
    never forgotten. Of course that’s real life but this
    is TV land and the writers of course will fix things
    up between our two heroes one way or another.

    I’m inclined to agree with herder. Some compromise
    will be found to restore the balance between them.
    Sarah will fight her way in, no matter what the cost, to get to him. He, hopefully, will find a way
    to get them out and restore his self respect. He
    admittedly is in a bad spot that even James Bond, himself, would have a hard time getting out of. But
    Chuck has no real choice. He simply has to show something here. If Sarah goes in and pulls him out
    and he does nothing on his own to help himself or
    her, while it may be very exciting to watch, his
    credibility will be damaged permanently.

    We’ll have to wait and see but I am certainly looking forward to the episode and hope a lot of people watch, thanks.

  19. OldDarth says:

    I think Phase 3 is a reference to the lobotomy from the promo. The previous 2 phases are likely less radical ie non-surgical methods to isolate and understand the Intersect.

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