Giant-Blond-She-Male kicks butt and takes hearts in her wake

Giant blond shemale on the hunt

I can’t speak for Joe, but I always find the episodes that simply rock my world the hardest to write about. Give me the frustrating ones and I can write you an Atlas Shrugged like piece (as we have seen in the past couple of days) but Phase Three? I’m stumped. There’s just so much brilliance, so much detail, emotion, development, substance and heart within it that it is no wonder it has leap frogged through many a top 10 Chuck episodes list, mine included. I haven’t even mentioned its winning lines, “does anyone else want to be my boyfriend?” Superb! And so bravely, we delve within the chronicles of the giant blond shemale that not only razed Thailand but warmed our hearts.

Faith begins:

The episode opens with one of the steamiest scenes we have ever seen on Chuck but alas it’s all a dream. A dream that illustrates Chuck’s deepest thoughts and most fervid neurosis: “you really expect to keep a girl like that without flashing?” Granted his neuroses were prompted by Dr. Mueller but there’s truth in the nightmare, a doubt that has lived within, and Chuck has had to fight against since meeting the hot girl at his nerd herd desk in the Buy More. Perhaps the most brilliant aspect of this episode is this parallel of having to fight to live, having to fight to survive, to love. Chuck from the get go didn’t just have to fight to retain his sanity, he had to fight against himself and debunk his own greatest weaknesses and fears. Can a guy who can’t flash really keep a woman like Sarah Walker? We find out.

Giant blond shemale in her natural habitat

Sarah meanwhile is experiencing her own set of neuroses, brought on by debilitating fear. Chuck’s been kidnapped, she doesn’t know where he is, how he is, and if she’ll ever see him again. To compound it all she has never told him the things she’s always wanted to say (more on this later). This catapulted to the most ferocious Sarah Walker we have ever seen, aptly named Giant-blond-she-male. She’s different without Chuck, and she doesn’t like it.

Giant-Blond-She-Male Also Rocks Joe’s World

For me, Faith, there’s been one sure way to get me to sit up, take notice and exclaim to the world that Chuck is the best show that ever was!!! That’s by letting Sarah show some emotion. It happens when she looks downward and says softly “Lisa. My middle name is Lisa.” It happens when she looks at her hotel phone ringing (it’s Bryce), and at her cell phone chirping (it’s Chuck) and can’t bring herself to answer just one call. It happens when Sarah tells Chuck, “some day you’ll forget all about me.” The face she puts on for Ellie moments later is an acting tour de force, as is her simple “I know,” to Chuck’s assertion that he won’t let the Intersect stop him from having a normal life and being with the woman he loves. He won’t.

Sarah’s emotions are given to us most often with few (or no) words. It’s in the way she looks when Chuck tells her that now she has someone who cares for her – “Yeah, you do.” – and they take each other’s hand. It’s in the silent dance of their fingers in a dirty Barstow motel room and in her funny, playful little question in a Castle cell, “Two beds?” Her desperation comes out in four words – “Take off your watch.” Sarah is not a talkative woman.

You’re absolutely right – this episode has so much brilliance, detail, emotion, heart… But that beginning is a lie and a head-fake! Sarah trying to seduce and entice Chuck into flashing like she’s on a mission is wonderful. Then I started to think: “this isn’t right!?”

The mating habits of the giant blond shemale

My eyebrows started to rise up just as Lester pops up in their bed (complete with Nerd-herd uniform) to taunt Chuck.”Do you really expect to keep a girl like that without flashing?” That’s not just Chuck’s insecurities speaking. That’s everyman’s Freudian bottom line, their id with a death grip on their super-ego’s throat.

Heh! I exaggerate, but not by much. Thanks to Lester, Chuck figures out pretty quickly that he’s dreaming, that it’s not real. That’s a good thing, because it’s going to get harder for him to hang onto the difference and not give into despair. If Chuck starts to believe that it’s hopeless, that no one is coming to help him, he’s lost.

Thanks to De Smet and Mueller, he is, in fact, lost in a world of dreams, a place where actions have no meaning. That’s going to make it tough, because we know that Sarah is nothing if she’s not a woman of action. Words? For her they are as rare and precious as jewels shining in the night, which is why they’re so memorable.

The previous episode, Fear of Death, ended with Sarah arguing with General Beckman and ready to commit treason to go after Chuck. She’s not going to be stopped by mere bureaucratic red tape. Indeed, the General tries to convince Sarah that she’s on her side in the matter by saying that she wants to protect the secrets (presumably the ones in Chuck’s head) and that’s when Sarah goes ballistic. “Forget the secrets. This is about Chuck!” Sarah, the cold, effective assassin who strolled into a Buy More one day thinking the assignment was going to be a piece of cake is reduced to screaming at her superior and planning treason. Casey has to remind her to be a professional, to be a spy.

But what has that ever meant to Sarah? At first, one of the ugliest faces she ever makes is when she spits out, “I can fix this!” to Graham when she considers the mess that Bryce has left her. It’s cold and calculating and totally without any emotion except maybe anger. Before Chuck she has been able to draw on that anger and do whatever it takes to fix the situation.

Giant blond shemale scents her mate

That’s a heck of a contrast to the Sarah we see in Phase Three, who is desperately clinging to Chuck’s memory, his shirt and the scent it carries. Sarah’s been running off in all directions being totally ineffective, even crossing the line into criminal.

Maybe it’s not that Sarah was unpredictable before she knew Chuck, like Casey informs her. What she doesn’t like is being directionless, rootless and scattered without him. Graham knew that she was a tool, a very powerful one and he knew how to use her. Now, Sarah is nobody’s tool, certainly not Beckman’s. But without Chuck she has no rudder and no compass.

The proposal plan, Morgan’s explanation… what magic! Why does Chuck have to be so childishly, wondrously, romantically secretive and meticulous about something that seems so straightforward to her? It’s because she’s “a big fish” to a normal guy like her Chuck. She is something extraordinary to him. Morgan tells her that Chuck’s been trying to be perfect when all the time Sarah’s been saying, “take it for granted that I’m alright with what we have.”

Sarah: I *do* want to spend the rest of my life with Chuck, with or without the Intersect!

Morgan: That’s fantastic! That’s great! Yeah – He knows that, because you told him that!
– Oh…

That’s a harsh lesson. Sarah’s reticence may have been Chuck’s undoing, and she knows it. But it’s not time to talk yet. Now is the time for what Sarah’s always done best. It’s time to take action the way she knows best. Alone.

And what action!

Faith responds:

In my never ending list of adjectives to describe this episode I forgot one word: imaginative. It took imagination to use hallucinations to not only convey Chuck’s worst nightmares, his neuroses, his struggle for sanity but also to show that Chuck is not alone. Neither of them are.

The giant blond shemale may have wrecked havoc on the strength of her fists but it was Morgan’s patented and always inappropriate sharing to connect that prompted it. It took hearing about Chuck’s proposal plan for her to rise from a stupor of devastation. It took hearing what she will lose, what she could possibly never have to awaken her from her own nightmare. It took Casey to get her as far as she did. And it took blunt truth to get her to reveal what she has always held close to her heart: she loves him, that much (emphasis on that much because like Morgan said, Chuck knows she loves him, but the extent is not quite as clear). Love isn’t easy for Sarah Walker. It never was. Not expressing it, not feeling it and certainly not the questions that come with it. What she knows of love is fraught with pain, abandonment so she’s learned not to dream, not to hope; to live in the present and take what life gives her. But not any longer:

“Chuck, I want to marry you.”

That one statement disintegrates all the walls she has put up since childhood.  That one statement has transformed her into the real girl she has always wanted to be.  One with a future, a home, a love. One able to express all the things she feels but could never fully verbalize. One that is consciously going after a life and a future she has never let herself even dream about, pre-Chuck. Chuck is her home, her family and in this he is also her salvation. “Without you, I’m nobody, I’m nothing but a spy.” For Sarah, “there is no going back” (Colonel).

You’re right Joe, an emotional and loving Sarah Walker is a sight to behold. It’s all the more so because we have seen the progression. From Agent Walker to Sarah Walker in the truest extent of those labels. By most accounts Colonel was the ultimate illustration of the emergence of one Sarah Walker from Agent Walker. She committed treason for him, she has finally opened up enough to show him just a glimpse of how she feels about him: “it is real,” but it’s not quite far enough. It was still “one mission at a time” for Sarah, but not any longer. Now there is only one mission, Chuck. She needs Chuck and he is everything.

See in our hearts of hearts we cheer when she wins–when she gets the boy. It’s never as simple as the boy gets the girl, because the girl, we want the best for her too. Our hearts broke when we were told they “could never really be together,” our hearts cheered when they finally had their moment in the sun (or is it motel?) in Colonel and in Phase Three we were floored when she was able to break him free from the spell.

Chuck has always been unconventional. On Chuck, we have traditional gender roles reversed, just like in Phase Three we have a sleeping handsome (as opposed to beauty) and when we glimpse at shades of normalcy: an emotional Sarah, a heroic Chuck, a mature Morgan, a human Casey, we celebrate and we’re all the more entertained. We wouldn’t want it all the time (ok some parts yes), but the glimpses are eternally poignant and compelling.

Returning to Colonel though, it’s amazing how far not just Sarah has progressed but everyone as well. The core qualities were always there but it’s fleshed out now more than ever. Back then Casey was hunting Sarah and Chuck for treason, Morgan was Emmett’s stooge and General Beckman? Well she was heartless. Not any longer.

Giant blond shemale with her pack

With Phase Three we were treated to the fruition of what having Chuck in their lives have begotten. What having each other mean. They aren’t alone, and together they’ve become better than they were. Chuck is a lucky guy, and deservedly so because he touches so many lives. He’s got a lot to live for and it’s going to take all of him to survive this assault.

Joe’s Imagination – and Chuck’s

You hit on a major theme of the episode, Faith. Chuck’s imagination and fears are exposed to the light. He’s a pretty perceptive and grounded guy, but we know he still has some insecurities after all, and really, I can’t blame him. Way back in S1 he was determined not to be fooled by what everyone else was saying about Sarah, or even by the evidence of his own eyes. He took her words, and Bryce’s, at face value and carefully weighed what he thought was the truth every step of the way. He and Sarah had no future because that would be dangerous for both of them. That was a truth. Sarah had to manipulate him sometimes even if she hated it, because that was her job. That was a truth. She was good at it. It must have been hard for Chuck to get over that, but it was a big truth.

In his dreams everyone is manipulating Chuck to get him to flash; using appeals to his vanity, to his patriotism and his sense of self. When dream-Sarah tried to entice Chuck to flash he should have been pre-disposed to believe her. Yet, that very manipulation was the clue Chuck relied on to separate truth from fiction. The real Sarah doesn’t manipulate him at all!

Sarah: Chuck, I’m here.
Chuck: But you’re not. You’re not real. This is a dream.
Sarah: I came to rescue you. I’m right here, Chuck.
Morgan: Hey – hey! Tell him what you told me before, okay? He’ll hear that. I know it. This is your chance. Don’t be Sarah Walker the spy, be Sarah Walker the girlfriend.
Sarah: Chuck – please! Chuck… I don’t care what… Please Wake Up! I have so much that I want to tell you…
Sarah: …I found your proposal plan.
Chuck: No, no NO! This is my mind playing tricks on me. You don’t know anything about my proposal plan!
Sarah: You were going to do it on the beach in Malibu, where we watched the sunrise after our first date. There were… several cars involved.
Chuck: I revised that.
Sarah: Chuck – I want to spend the rest of my life with you, and I don’t care if you have the Intersect or not. Without you, I’m nobody. I’m nothing but a spy. Come back to me, Chuck. I want to marry you.

Oh yeah, “It’s real,” Chuck. This is a BIG truth. And it’s not only Sarah’s walls that are disintegrated with that statement, Faith, Chuck’s doubts and insecurities are too.

Faith again…

Some people questioned Chuck’s “passive” role in this episode, in this arc in general. But I have to disagree. Chuck is not and was not passive in this episode specifically. He had just as much demons, if not more (quite literally actually) than Sarah. It took all of him to not buy into the fear, the loneliness and hold steadfast into what he knows, what is the truth in his heart. He knows that Sarah loves him; he knew that deep down she would never make her love conditional to whether or not he could flash, whether or not he epitomizes the spy persona, whether or not he could measure up to her. He was able to fight his demons because he believed in her, in them. Just like Sarah found her strength to rescue him.

We forget sometimes that Chuck has just as much abandonment issues as Sarah, if not more. Sure he had Ellie, but with every betrayal, with every revelation, he still manages to retain his spirit, his optimism, his Chuckness. It’s been a hard fought victory, but as he enters into phase three losing has become inevitable.

Awhile back, one Chuck Bartowski rescued a splintering Sarah Walker. She was losing herself. She was becoming less and less who she was, what we have known her to be and to add insult to injury she was at the brink of (physical) death but Chuck rescued her. He saved her. In Phase Three, Sarah returned the favor. It’s a beautiful full circle that’s subtle in its delivery but magic in its conception.  “It’s too late, he’s almost completely gone,” remarks Mueller. Chuck’s strength and will have finally buckled down under the pressure of hours of torture, both physical and psychological but Sarah saves him. She saves him through words. The “I’m not any good at relationships”-“doesn’t talk much” girlfriend, saved her man with naked emotion and love. “Chuck, I love you.” She, as you put it Joe, saved him through truth.

Now I have a question. Should this have happened way back in Colonel? Should Sarah have admitted to herself then (as well as to Chuck!) that she was “nothing but a spy” without him? Should Chuck have finally let go of his doubts and trusted himself (as well as Sarah!) to know the truth THEN?

Ideally, of course, yes. But I can’t help but think that the confines of this particular universe, that would have been unrealistically easy. Back then Chuck thought he was just a normal guy – not a hero. Sarah started to say what she wanted and never finished the sentence. Sarah’s sense of “the future” meant only the end of her current mission, and nothing further. Despite herself wishes that became Chuck’s mode of thinking too.

When Bryce was shot and Sarah saw Chuck re-Intersect in The Ring Pt. 1, she became Agent Walker with head snapping suddenness, almost reflexively. When Chuck saw Bryce die and realized the situation they were in, Chuck just had to be Sarah’s hero. Neither realized that by making their choice they were giving up something of immense value: the rest of their humanity and a large part of who they are. That’s what happens every time you make a choice in life, in fact. But for them it was too soon. They had no clue about what they were giving up. Too soon, because they did not know. All due respect to blog-brother Dave who argues the opposite view very well today, in fact. But they were not ready in Colonel and it surprises me that I come to that conclusion. It’s not what I believed through most of S3, and really, I didn’t start to question why until Cubic-Z.

You’re right, Faith. It’s amazing to see how far everyone has come. Well, okay, not Jeff and Lester, but everyone else. The question is looming larger: are Chuck and Sarah ready for the next step NOW? I know how some of us are feeling about this, but yes, I’m still the optimist. You can tell that I think they are.

A lot to think about there Joe. So I’ll take it one step at a time.

Could this have happened back in Colonel? In my opinion no, but my reasons differ from yours. It’s because although the love was there, the answers weren’t. What I mean by that is, so Chuck and Sarah love each other, now what? Do they, move in together? Be spies together? If Chuck remains intersect-less how well can he fight against the demons of insecurity? Ideally they will strive to find the answers together but remember that Colonel Chuck and Sarah were much worse crap communicators than pre-Coup D’Etat Chuck and Sarah. She’s still a big fish and he’s still just “Chuck Bartowski, not a hero.” Perception for Chuck, is reality.  These same questions that were answered in Phase Three didn’t originate in season 4 but rather in season 1. And it took all of that to get here. It took Sarah unpacking, it took Chuck finally choosing a font for his 10 year plan (note: there are only two items on the list, to be a spy and to be with Sarah), it took Chuck being kidnapped and Sarah’s dreams of a life with him to be in jeopardy for them to reach this point. It took believing, not just knowing that when you leave the world behind, there’s still love (“sweet, sweet jungle love”). It was so simple then, but it wasn’t time.

So now are they ready for the ultimate in commitment, marriage? I want to say yes. I want to believe yes. They have fought their demons, both individually and as a couple. They have fostered a much deeper bond between them. They have learned to be what each other needed–better yet, they have gained an understanding of each other and for once they’ve dusted off the ashes of the label “crap communicators.” But are they ready? I still believe that as long as Sarah is standing in front of Chuck, instead of with him, they remain stagnant. One of the issues raised in FOD was this idea of is he a spy without the intersect and it was unequivocally answered in this episode as yes. But is Sarah willing to let him be in danger on a daily basis sans the intersect? Well that too was answered yes. She had no objections to him continuing to be a spy, but rather she’s relieved that he’s at least with her. Time will tell on this issue and I think it’s all leading up to yes (pun intended, as in “will you marry me,” “yes”).

Chuck vs. Phase Three answered almost none of the questions and issues raised this season. Heh! Only the appropriate answer to “Knock, knock!” has come out. By all rights we should come away feeling this episode is a stand-alone, divorced from the rest of S4.

In reality, it didn’t feel that way to me at all! We got something that ignored nearly all of MamaB and Volkoff but moved Chuck and Sarah closer – much closer. Gee – when I think about it, the spy-story seems to pale in significance. The whole CIA/NSA/spy-world served as a mere plot device for Chuck getting over his insecurities and Sarah finally wanting to speak. “I have so much that I want to tell you…” I’m definitely not complaining about it!

This is not at all what I expected to find–the emotional continuation of The Colonel–but to me, that’s exactly what we have here. In The Honeymooners Chuck & Sarah realized that, on top of what they were doing, they want to be together. Well, hallelujah! They actually figured out what they want! It’s taken up to now for Sarah to figure out that without Chuck, she’s nothing but a spy. With him, she’s extraordinary, that “big fish” as Morgan put it. Chuck wanted to be a spy, and now he is, with and without the Intersect. He’s learned to trust in himself and Sarah, because what they have is real. It’s no illusion.

Before I end this, I’d want to highlight the incredible effectiveness of the techniques used by director Anton Cropper. Having dream-Sarah calmly saying real-life-Sarah’s desperate words to Chuck takes my breath away every time I see it. Josh Gomez has taken a great character in Morgan beyond all expectations, remaining hilarious while adding depth and humanity to Morgan (ibid. Faith earlier, it’s Morgan who led Sarah in the right direction). The cinematography, the use of the broken glass to reflect Chuck’s psyche was perfect.

All the supporting cast had fewer seconds on screen to bring out the things in their characters that are seen only in dreams! Not easy, and they succeeded. Zac Levi had to play terrorized, brave, sexual, defeated, helpless, lost, found, saved and resurrected (I really disagree with anyone who believes that Chuck was just passively waiting for Sarah to save him. Like you said, Faith, he had to fight for his sanity). None of it played false.

And of course, Yvonne Strahovski was stunning. I want to claim that I was one of the first to tweet that she should be nominated for an Emmy just for this performance. But I’m sure hundreds of people beat me to it. Not considering her this time around would be foolishness in the extreme.

As for the future, has anyone noticed that Beckman is on to them? I think so! Team B’s little rogue operation is about to come under some scrutiny – watch for it! There’s also the question about Ellie; she’s rightly focused on security, safety and motherhood right now and has no time for Chuck’s pipe dreams about being some sort of James Bond. Except that he is, and so is her mother and late father. Ellie saw something in Stephen’s lap-top, and I don’t think it was merely brain schematics and software flow-charts done in Java or C++.

I’m rather convinced that Stephen is not through manipulating things, this time with Frost’s help. No, he’s not manipulating Chuck – I have a feeling some other James Bond is on the receiving end of that. Or maybe that’s just my imagination.

I believe it was Dave that first crystallized for me this idea that Chuck is, at its core about relationships. There is no greater, more frustrating, more euphoric, more heartwarming relationship on Chuck than Chuck and Sarah. So it’s fitting that this episode has come amidst all the familial and worldly conflict. It’s going to take a strong core to defeat a great villain. To quote Achebe, “things fall apart, the center cannot hold” and Chuck and Sarah are most assuredly the heart of Chuck.

Preaching to the choir about the cinematography, direction and acting in this episode, Joe. The script was solid, but the rest made a solid script epic. If you consider the fact that Yvonne Strahovski had to deliver the same lines twice and in different context, it’s all the more impressive. And with unapologetic vanity, I have to say, it should be a crime to look that good when crying that much. But perhaps most impressive is the imagination. Chuck at its finest.

The future will come as it may, but for today, after this episode one can’t help but feel optimistic. Like Sarah, we have a lot to live for (well metaphorical “live”)—a lot to look forward to.

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138 Responses to Giant-Blond-She-Male kicks butt and takes hearts in her wake

  1. joe says:

    Oh gee! Faith gets all the credit for the captions!

    Ahem.

    • alladinsgenie4u says:

      Channeling the Joker from Dark Knight 🙂 J/K

      Oh gee! Faith gets all the credit for the captions!

      Does it depress you Joe, that Faith gets all the credit for the captions. 😉

      • ChuckNewbie8 says:

        I’m just glad someone appreciates my sense of humor. I’m still waiting for someone to take note of the jokes I placed in the FOD piece lol.

      • alladinsgenie4u says:

        There were jokes in your FOD analysis? I don’t know, I kind of dozed off when I was reading your part. 😉 🙂

      • joe says:

        Genie, Faith can *have* all the credit for those! 😉

  2. JC says:

    Easily the strongest episode of the last two seasons. Letting Yvonne spread her acting wings is something the show needs to do more often.

    While it would be easy to just say I loved everything about the episode I did have two favorite parts. I can’t remember the last time Chuck’s insecurities or issues weren’t treated as a joke by the show. That was something that always got under my skin about the show. The second was the Sarah’s realization about how closed off she still is to Chuck. I just hope they follow through with the line “There’s so much I want to tell you”.

    My only complaints were the notion that Chuck questioned whether Sarah loved him without the Intersect. That seemed out of left field to me but I could buy it though. Although I wished they had addressed whether Sarah could love Chuck the spy like she does the normal guy. Maybe we’ll get that down the road. The other was I’m not sure we got definite closure on Sarah feelings about Chuck’s worth as a spy and whether she sees him as an equal.

    Minor issues that really didn’t distract from my enjoyment of the episode. Top Five easily.

    • alladinsgenie4u says:

      First of all big thanks to Joe and Faith for the in-depth analysis. Second, those captions are just great. 🙂

      JC

      My only complaints were the notion that Chuck questioned whether Sarah loved him without the Intersect.

      I believe that question was never articulated orally by Chuck. Or am I a forgetting something? Granted, his dreams about Sarah leaving him when he fails to flash could be construed as a deep seated fear.

      The other was I’m not sure we got definite closure on Sarah feelings about Chuck’s worth as a spy and whether she sees him as an equal.

      Hey! What’s the hurry? There’s some prime material for angst generation right there. 😉

    • sd says:

      I agree, JC, on questions of closure about Sarah’s feelings re: Chuck’s worth as a spy. Although, she did verbalize her agreement with Beckman about Chuck’s value at the end of Phase 3.

      I am also hoping and hopeful that we will see follow-through on Sarah’s “there is so much I want to tell you” declaration to Chuck.

      While this episode once again confirms and–for some–re-affirms that both are characters are “all in” …the question now becomes do TPTB?

      I still have a funny feeling about the far-reaching effect Mama B will have on the S/C dynamic…actually as a shipper, I have a sick-funny feeling about what will happen next.

      I think Mary’s life history begs to be repeated by Sarah…which will blow up all that we have seen about Sarah’s growth up to this point.

      • alladinsgenie4u says:

        SD

        They are bound to explore the Mama B/Sarah parallels. As JC says it has been blatantly obvious throughout the Mama B arc. The important question is – how do they balance these parallels without debunking Phase 3? If they go overboard with the similarities between Sarah and Mama B, they risk negating Sarah’s growth and self realization from 4×09. Or maybe Sarah’s statements in 4×09 (like “I am nobody,without you, I am nothing but a spy” ‘I am different without Chuck and I don’t like it”) could further be put to test during the next two episodes. It’s one thing to realize something and orally tell it – the big task is remaining steadfast on those commitments (too strong?)

        So, if Sarah’s words in Phase 3 are put to test in the near future – question is – does she remain steadfast like a rock? or does she slip up? And is she does slip – how far and for how long? It’s a recipe for good drama – only if not taken to extremes.

      • iNewbie says:

        sd, I’m usually paranoid about the couples I ship but I’m pretty sure we shouldn’t worry about C/S, not after the end of Coup D’Etat or an episode like this. Sure, the MEB/Sarah parallel is there, but I believe Sarah will do her best to learn from Mary’s mistakes and avoid making them herself.

      • alladinsgenie4u says:

        I believe Sarah will do her best to learn from Mary’s mistakes and avoid making them herself.

        I kind of hope they bring up the Ellie/Mama B talk of 4×07 – Sarah is an intelligent person – if she hasn’t already drawn any life lesson from that conversation, I for one would be disappointed.

      • sd says:

        alladin—

        Agreed. We have seen the writers “re-tell” scenarios from different perspectives…we’ve seen it in all four seasons. So, it would stand to reason that Sarah will travel Mama B’s path…but how far down that path?

        The tightrope the writers will walk (and fell off imho last season) is how to balance what we have seen and heard from these characters with what is revealed.

      • jason says:

        @sd – one thing – Mary’s ordeal lasted 20 years, given awesomette arrives in a few months max & likely sarah will be back with her chuck by then, this sarah mary parallel should not last too long? Plus, it sure sounds like CS will be back as a team in 14 and 15, otherwise what is the point?

        One possible spitball, sarah accepts chuck’s ring in 11, then gets contacted by mary, who makes sarah promise not to tell chuck, sarah leaves the ring with a goodbye note by chuck’s bedside and is gone.

        If that spitball is correct, and that starts 4×12 – then by mid 4×12, sarah has already returned in her catwomen garb, seen in the promo, if that is the timeline, no big deal to me, but then again, all guessin on my part?

        Fanfic

      • joe says:

        SD: I am also hoping and hopeful that we will see follow-through on Sarah’s “there is so much I want to tell you” declaration to Chuck.

        Yeah, there’s a lot of stuff that we can assume happens “off camera”, but I too would like to see some follow-up on this explicitly.

      • alladinsgenie4u says:

        Jason

        Speaking of Ellie’s pregnancy – any idea how far along she is? 7 months?

        We can very well expect another time jump in the coming two episodes to accommodate the baby’s arrival in 4×13.

      • Faith says:

        One of the themes this season are the choices we make and what we then have to live with.

        This parallel (genius) is all about that. They won’t and shouldn’t stop Sarah from being Mary until the brink. Because that’s good storytelling. And I suspect that the dichotomy will occur not just by choice, but because of love. Sarah has what Mary didn’t…Chuck, or Stephen if you prefer. Mary lost her Chuck long ago and it shaped her. The choice she made to make that happen shaped her. In the end she did it on her own…isolated (maybe she had to be)…it’ll be different for Sarah. Sarah will have Chuck to pull her from the brink.

        These are all just specs of course.

      • alladinsgenie4u says:

        Faith – Expounding on your speculation

        But if Sarah has to be pulled back by Chuck from the brink again – what is the use of her growth as evidenced by her actions in Phase 3? Doesn’t positive growth make a person wiser? Why would it need for her to go to the brink and then not be able to make it back on her own and be pulled by Chuck?

      • jason says:

        @faith – I hope not, because that would mean chuck had something that orion did not, or that chuck – sarah’s love had something that mary – orion’s did not, I hope the difference maker in this case is mary, not sarah, chuck, or their love?

      • Faith says:

        You’re assuming that the brink is that of being that weapon, or what she was before Chuck and falling for him…but keep in mind that Mary’s choices are about family (if you believe her). What if Sarah gets pulled into whatever danger and thereby parallel with Mary because of Chuck?

        We know that Mary “did it all for her family,” and we know that it all begun with Stephen…I think they’re building up to an eventuality where Sarah has to make a choice between saving Chuck or being with him in a sense. Not exactly that but close.

        The saving Sarah from brink stems from that. What will change her fate from Mary’s is that Chuck will be there for her and won’t let her fall. Not even for him. Together they’ll defeat whatever comes their way instead of separating to protect those they hold dear like Mary and Stephen did.

        In this manner we also solve the question of equality. Also a theme this season.

        Jason I’m not sure if it’s having something different as it is choosing something different. And don’t forget they in a sense do have something that Mary and Stephen did not and that’s history/experience. One of my favorite quotes is “those that don’t know the past are destined to repeat it” (paraphrasing) and Chuck and Sarah know. I’m sure Mary will help as well. I get goosebumps thinking of the kind of wisdom she can impart to Sarah. Not as a spy, but as a wife, mother. The value of that over the fate of the world…sometimes. Lessons learned.

      • jason says:

        interesting, in 4×12, it sounds like sarah is now in a situation (i.e. a no win situation) much like chuck was in season 3’s red test 3×11 episode, should she honor the request of her future mother in law and help her fullfill a 20 yr mission which cost her everything or not?

      • Faith says:

        To add: in phase three Sarah said, “without you I’m nothing but a spy.” what I’m basically saying is what if she needs to be or feels she needs to be that spy for Chuck. Whatever it is that Mary pulls her in, and if you read the synopsis–that may be dangerous…you can almost believe for certain she’s doing it because of Chuck and in some way Mary too.

      • alladinsgenie4u says:

        Faith

        what I’m basically saying is what if she needs to be or feels she needs to be that spy for Chuck. Whatever it is that Mary pulls her in, and if you read the synopsis–that may be dangerous…you can almost believe for certain she’s doing it because of Chuck and in some way Mary too.

        I understand that if she has to do something – like help Mary or become the spy that she used to be – all for the sake of family, then one can understand her decision making. As per the synopsis of 4×12, Chuck is worried that she is going too deep – what would be interesting to see is that is Sarah getting in too deep just to complete the mission or is it all about saving Mama B? Does she take this decision arbitrarily? Does she leave Chuck out of it(the decision) – to protect him – thereby again inadvertently not trusting Chuck again to make the right choice? Does she communicate with Chuck properly on this issue or will we see another communication breakdown scenario?
        Also granted that Mama B did it all for her family – but in the long run did it make things right for Chuck, Ellie and Stephen?

        I hope C/S have some sort of mature conversation that deals with this.

      • JC says:

        I do have some issues with Sarah following Mary’s path. She should know how that choice effected both Chuck and Ellie without some major realization. It Chuck or Mary has to remind her or she comes to some epiphany, it would kinda feel false. A step backwards in growth just to show how she isn’t Mary.

      • Faith says:

        Alladins we have to stay tuned ;-).

        But for your second question, I think the answer is no. Being apart helped no one…not Mary, Stephen, Ellie or Chuck. I mean maybe someday they can consider things happening for the best but really it helped no one. And that’s a lesson she in particular has had to learn. They all did.

      • I agree JC I hope they don’t go too far with the parallel, and have Sarah again make a step back. It would just be a plot device again to have more angst.

        I’m hoping that Sarah goes on this mission to help Mary, and that despite Chuck worries, they work together and support each other. At some point, Sarah need to make a choice, stop the mission and go back to Chuck, or go deeper. She chooses Chuck of course.

        That way there’s no step back, but the parallel is there.

      • alladinsgenie4u says:

        JC, Crumby, Faith

        IMHO, they could do a parallel to Mama B and Sarah but we have to remember one thing – Mama B was forced to go deep and become an apparent turncoat because her hand was forced after she was discovered to be CIA.In other words – the choice was no longer in her hands. But the circumstances of Sarah going undercover may be totally different.

      • I think Leftovers answered that one.

        Mary: “I didn’t have a choice.”
        Chuck: “There’s always a choice.”

      • jason says:

        if you listen to the first 3 minutes of the opening of season 4 – Sarah’s last line to chuck was nothing is going to keep me from coming back to you … but prior to that, the frost queen story, never quite added up since the ‘King’ is dead, can’t be saved, but if you relisten to the story, and substitute sarah as the queen, and chuck as the king, still may not fit exactly – unless of course morgan is the prince – the really cool guy – LOL

      • Even if Orion and Frost were good people (it’s still unsure for Frost, there could be a twist somewhere) they handled there family business very badly, and Mary still does. She’s never telling Chuck what she’s up to, she gives him information only when necessary, she’s basically handling him.

        I’d like to see Chuck and Sarah handle things differently. The “No secrets, no lies” was the start and everything that follows was meant to lead into that direction.

        We don’t need them to do the same mistake and then repair them. They can have it right the first time. Doesn’t mean it’s easier and less dramatic.

      • patty says:

        I agree with you Crumby. I would also add that MamaB does not really understand Chuck if she really thought that she could stop him by blocking the Intersect. That makes it really hard to “handle” him.

        I loved the way Sarah would get him to stay safe sometimes by giving him a job, like monitering the drone from the comparative safety of Castle in Predator. Of course that did not always work either!

      • JC says:

        @Genie

        We’ve both said they really need to be careful with this arc. Having Sarah dismiss Chuck concerns would be a mistake IMO. All the growth from Sarah earlier in the season goes out the window. And not having Chuck show any abandonment issues would just look like they ignored them for the arc. I still think the best way of dealing with this would for the plan to be one they came up with together. Then you could have Sarah being kinda trapped like Mary and go from there.

      • Tamara Burks says:

        I have a theory that Mama B never had her phase 3 . She never had the close call in losing the ones she loved so she kept taking assignments and ended up taking one she really had no business taking (since it sounds like a long term assignment -months at the very least) confident that they would always be there for her and that she would always finish and get back to them. IOW , she got cocky.

        Sarah OTOH has had phase three to really bring things home how easy it would be to lose him and what she has to lose. Morgan saying those things to her also made it clear to her that she could lose him with him thinking that her love wasn’t as deep as hers.

    • patty says:

      I don’t think that they were saying that Chuck feared losing Sarah’s love so much as they were saying that Chuck questioned whether he was *worthy* of her love.

      • alladinsgenie4u says:

        they were saying that Chuck questioned whether he was *worthy* of her love.

        But that again raises another thorny question for me – is Chuck’s self worth tied only to the Intersect?

      • joe says:

        It’s hard to separate the two, Patty. Without the Intersect, could he keep her love?

        Not to go all Freudian on you, but it’s something that resonates with a lot of guys. “Without the job/paycheck/car/home in the ‘burbs can I keep her love?” It gets tied up with his feelings of self-worth pretty easily.

      • Faith says:

        I would agree with this. It’s all in Chuck’s head. Always was. The problem was that Sarah is and has been closed off that he really didn’t see better, know better. Now he does.

        I suspect he will always try to measure up…why wouldn’t he? We all hope we can be better than we are for the people that we love, but he won’t ever have to worry about losing her because of it. Like it’s been mentioned they’re both all in now. That’s a change lol.

        Alladins, I would venture to say no. But I think with Chuck’s mentality he doesn’t have any of this without it and it goes to show that without the intersect it’s an uphill battle to keep it. But Sarah put those fears to rest in this episode. She said something similar in FOD but he wasn’t ready to listen yet, “you’re Chuck Bartowski, and you do that all on your own.” Translated: you’re Chuck, all I needed to love you.

      • sd says:

        Faith—

        You raise a good point…that Chuck and Sarah will work together instead of separating as Mary and Stephen felt necessary.
        I say that remembering the conversation Chuck has with his dad in Castle…about not running (or running away) from all he holds dear…that in that moment he wouldn’t repeat his father’s decision. As we know, he does run with his father until he learns Sarah and Casey are in jeopardy and convinces his dad to turn around to rescue them.
        Could make for some interesting drama…

      • Faith says:

        Yeah SD, I really think that’s what they’re shooting for this year. This idea that they’re stronger as a team.

        Ironically I was just watching Gravitron and towards the end there is this scene:
        Chuck: I’m just too trusting. Ever since I was little I always wanted to believe people. I’m just getting used to all this spying and lying.
        Sarah: Don’t get used to it, what makes you special is that you’re not like every other spy. You’re a good guy and you like to help people. Leave the deception to me.
        Chuck: Well I’m glad I have you.
        Sarah: Yeah, we’re better as a team.

        ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

    • Faith says:

      Chuck’s a special guy with a mondo dose of insecurities. It’s not something that’s new…ever since she approached him to talk to him he has always wondered and questioned what lucky star he has fallen under. So no, to me it wasn’t something that was without cause/reason. And kudos to the writers for not only exploring this issue but also the manner at which they did so.

      The answer to your second query I think is something we touched on in FOD. Shades of Crown Vic: normal for the sake of normal or the guy. Well in this case spy. It’s not finished or fully fleshed out but I think there have been multiple indications that she loves Chuck. All that is him including that which jumps both feet without caution on spy missions, spy Chuck. It’s one of the themes of this episode.

      • joe says:

        Chuck’s a special guy with a mondo dose of insecurities.

        A mondo dose, Faith? Oh gee. I hope it’s more like a normal dose because I relate to that too much! 😉

        False bravado is easy. I do that every day!

      • sd says:

        A Mary/Sarah arc I could live with is Sarah working to bring Mary back to Chuck and Ellie—b/c of the importance she is placing now on family.

        To me that would make sense for Sarah to “leave Chuck” to go down the path that Mary went in order to bring Mary back.

  3. Joseph (can't be Joe) says:

    I had said, that after Phase Three that the word “epic” can no longer be used by anyone in any way shape or form.

    Therefore, I am officially retiring the word “epic” as it shall for evermore be solely associated to the television episode – Chuck vs. Phase Three.

    ** pounds virtual gavel on desk **

  4. Michael says:

    >> Giant-Blond-She-Male Also Rocks Joe’s World

    Am I the only one with an issue about the term She Male? At least in regards to it being used to describe Sarah? While at one time, this might have meant an aggressive female, today, it refers to a tranny. Or do I just travel in really weird circles?

    Putting that aside, it was a suburb episode. Perhaps even the best ‘evah’. Well, after Honeymooners. 🙂

    The problem I have, is that half of a fanfic I’m writing showed up in it. Right down to the “Giant blond shemale scents her mate” scene. I wanted to cry. I just delayed posting it, but were they, the creators, giving us subtle hints that we were headed this way? Did I miss them?

    I was really hoping for a few episodes showing Chuck adapting to life without the interesct. That pole-dancing scene just didn’t do it for me. Agent Rye didn’t do it for me. I don’t know, I think Chuck would make a great agent without it. And then, just when we think they would get the normal life they really crave, Chuck discovers the computer in Ellie’s apartment one day, and quite by accident, gets re-intersected. Hmmm… Maybe another AU fanfic?

    Faith, Joe, thanks for the post and getting me a little closer to the next episode. While fanfics are fun to read or write, they just aren’t the same thing.

    • joe says:

      You’re welcome, Michael.

      Naw… you’re not the only one. Frankly, I blanch a little at the “shemale” thing, viscerally. But I understand the humor. I choose to just go with it.

      That’s interesting about the potential fan-fic. Not to question your originality, but I’d wager there were other fans who imagined Sarah going all Conan-the-barbarian on some large subset of humanity to save Chuck’s butt. That’s got to be a popular fantasy. Still, aren’t you glad they put it in canon for us? Now fan-fic writers can use that as a starting point too.

      Seeing Chuck adapting to life without the Intersect for a bit would be rather interesting too. Actually, Sarah would have to do quite a bit of adapting too, right? But I wonder how much of that would be too much.

      I recall a few official “alternate universe” Superman stories in my youth, one of which had him split (by the simultaneous use of about 5 different kinds of Kryptonite, IIRC) into Superman’ and Clark Kent’ (read that as “prime” following the names). Then they followed both sides of his personality for a bit. Pretty interesting, but they kept it only for one issue.

      • Sarge_87 says:

        The whole “giant blond she male” thing didn’t bother me in the least because it was written as a cultural mores though the eyes of a Thai male.

        In the under developed regions of Thailand, females aren’t accepted in the Alpha role. To a Thai male of average height being 5’6″, a 5’10” Sarah Walker would be giant in comparison to a Thai female whose average height is 5’2″ where blonds are as rare as pink diamonds.

        Calling it cultural shock seeing a large blond female going from village to village, leaving devastation in her wake would be an understatement.

    • Faith says:

      I’m fairly certain the terminology is he-she or he to she and vice versa so in that sense quite different. If that helps.

      As for was this in the cards, foretold? I think you can make that argument. Sarah has always been physical while Chuck mental so in a way this wasn’t unexpected. To quote Joe it’s an emotional continuation of Colonel and in that sense it that was coming.

      I actually myself, asked for an anniversary reverse (Sarah in bed missing Chuck) because I felt it would be a powerful scene and it was. So take comfort in that genius is in display even when you didn’t get to write it lol.

      • joe says:

        An “Anniversary reverse.” Good concept!

        What I got in Anniversary was Morgan complaining that Chuck was getting up every morning bemoaning the fact that he was missing Sarah. Now if we had actually *seen* that, the way we saw Sarah on their bed missing Chuck, it would have been awesome.

        Zac hasn’t done that mood much, but I can think of moments that tell me he can. Maybe Anniversary was too early in the season to show it, but I’d love to see that scene now.

    • Tamara Burks says:

      Somebody posted after this ep first aired about there being a well known (to those that follow kickboxing flicks) movie about a transexual Thai boxer.

  5. joe says:

    I’m going to reveal waaayyy too much about myself just by publishing this link, but I can’t resist.

    Part of the charm of this episode is in that perfect 10, Sarah Walker, demonstrating beyond a shadow of a doubt that she loves the nerd, Chuck Bartowski. We don’t have to ask why any more – she just does.

    But if you’d like a list of the silly little reasons why this might be possible, try here.

  6. This episode was unironically speaking… AWESOME! I think you pointed out a lot in this great piece Faith and Joe, so I don’t have much to add. Maybe that like Sarah, Awesome is ready to go really far to help his better half! Oh and Faith, the captions = great! 😉

    I will disagree on one thing though: One of the issues raised in FOD was this idea of is he a spy without the intersect and it was unequivocally answered in this episode as yes. But is Sarah willing to let him be in danger on a daily basis sans the Intersect? Well that too was answered yes.

    Sarah’s problem wasn’t to have Chuck go on missions without the Intersect, it was that he was going “with no safety net.”

    As for the first issue you mentioned, it wasn’t dealt with IMO. At least not in a satisfying manner to me. FOD raised a specific issue: is Chuck a spy without the Intersect? They let us think that Phase Three would answer that, hinting that what motivated Sarah to go rogue at the end of FOD was her outburst about Chuck not being a spy. “This is all my fault. He did this to prove to me that he could be a spy.”

    Then in Phase Three, they brought up the proposal, and change the issue to something else. Could Sarah love an Intersect-less Chuck? I don’t have any problem with that, and it gave us that amazing scene when Sarah wakes up Chuck.

    However, they didn’t really answer the question as to Chuck is really a spy or not. Chuck certainly thinks so “I’m still spy.” But the word Beckman used was asset. “The Intersect appears to be buried for good, but we’ll find a use for you. You’re an asset with or without it.” So which is it? The question remains because Chuck went to training in Leftovers and they didn’t take the opportunity to have Chuck save the day on a mission, proving his Chuck-skills, without the Intersect.

    If FOD was to be happen again after Phase Three, would Sarah let Chuck go with Rye? I don’t think so. And would Chuck not go with Rye? I’m still not sure, because once again they didn’t give a definite resolution to this.

    That leads me to my second remark for that episode. They way it was constructed and concluded, am I to conclude everything was Sarah’s fault? That’s why she had to save Chuck? She pushed him to prove himself and didn’t tell him how much she lived him. Is that why we didn’t see Chuck thank her for saving him, or telling her he was sorry to put her through this, or just show some appreciation? I don’t need to point fingers but I could have used at least one of those.

    That’s my two problems with my otherwise favorite episode of the season. 🙂

    Edited by Faith: fixed 🙂

    • alladinsgenie4u says:

      Is that why we didn’t see Chuck thank her for saving him, or telling her he was sorry to put her through this, or just show some appreciation?

      Maybe all of this did happen – off screen, like the ‘no lies’ talk they had. IMHO, TPTB are missing out on some sound emotional bonding by excluding such scenes.

    • Arf, I screwed up my italic tags. Sorry…

    • Faith says:

      I like that better…she was more concerned about the safety net. Although they’re going to have to prove that to me in the coming episodes lol. Like I said up there, I want to believe they’re ready but I’m not convinced yet ;-).

      You know as frustrating as FOD was, its intentions was to give us half the answer to: “is he a spy without the intersect.” The answer they meant to convey was yes, with Phase 3 solidifying it with an approval from Beckman. The whole “asset” thing wasn’t related to being a handler-asset qualification but literally; he’s of use to the CIA even without the intersect. I believe as such because the secrets in his head has always been the asset part of the handler-asset, not Chuck. Chuck has always been a hero on his own, but the government never really considered that noteworthy—the secrets on the other hand? Asset. With Phase 3, Beckman has shown growth by recognizing Chuck for more than the secrets in his head and in turn answers the question, “is he a spy without the intersect.” Yes.

      I made a parallel up there about rescuing the other. In Other Guy, Chuck rescued Sarah—more than just in the physical sense but every which way. He had to because it was partly his fault she went on that downward spiral. In this episode/arc I think we were supposed to believe (and IMO there’s enough in there to make sense of it) that it was all Sarah’s fault. Not that that makes Chuck blameless…Rye stuff in consideration, but as a parallel to Other Guy and all that was S3, that was Chuck’s fault (again bare bones, please don’t start WW3 of words here lol, I’m trying to stay away from the clusterdoo of S3 but it’s tough lol) this is Sarah’s.

      • What I meant with my comment on the “asset” is that yes his abilities & skills are recognized, but he can’t defend himself without the Intersect. Therefore Sarah was right when she didn’t want to have him alone on missions.

        So the episode make it Sarah’s fault and in the same time she’s right. They should have cleared that up IMO.

      • Faith says:

        But Sarah’s mistake wasn’t just about the outburst, it was more than that. It’s feeding his already burgeoning insecurity and in a lot of ways what this episode tried to do is put that to bed.

        As for not being able to defend himself without the intersect (he wasn’t really alone, I may not like his partner in that situation but he wasn’t exactly a lost cause), that’s another matter and one that I think was less important than the rest. We know Chuck can’t defend himself physically without the intersect (we still have to have a reason to have Casey)…the issue is will she at least let him try to defend himself or will she force feed him for the rest of his life? But we at least learned that he’s far stronger (mentally) than he thought/she thought/we thought. And in a lot of ways that’s more important. Remember the lessons we’ve learned in the past about torture: everybody talks.

      • alladinsgenie4u says:

        Thank you, Faith. When I read Crumby’s post I very much wanted to highlight the parallels of 4×09 with 3×13, but I was stumped for words. But I somewhat disagree on the fault thing that both you and Crumby mentioned. Crumby says that it looked like it was Sarah’s fault that she was rectifying in Phase 3 – I never saw it that way. Was it Sarah’s fault that the Belgian possessed info on the Intersect? Because IMHO, if the Belgian hadn’t know that, then there was equal chance that Chuck and Rye would have a successful mission. And even without Sarah’s outburst in Castle, Chuck and Rye would have proceeded on the mission anyway. So, it’s not Sarah’s fault (although she may feel it to be so).

        He had to because it was partly his fault she went on that downward spiral.

        My positive spin on the above line:

        Yes, he was at fault.Chuck’s trusting nature had rubbed off on her and she almost paid the price with her life. Damn you Chuck and your good qualities!! 😀 Loos where it got Walker. 🙂

      • Faith says:

        Alladins, thanks. I can say without modesty that that (“Awhile back, one Chuck Bartowski rescued a splintering Sarah Walker….”) was probably the best paragraph I’ve written in recent memory haha.

        Having said that, was it really her fault? You can argue for or against, but what’s more important is she believed it was and that’s where we arrive at Phase 3.

        And from a storytelling standpoint it works. Obviously not all her fault, but she deserves part of the blame and by conveying it that way they have gone full circle.

        LOL @ spin.

      • But Sarah’s mistake wasn’t just about the outburst, it was more than that. It’s feeding his already burgeoning insecurity and in a lot of ways what this episode tried to do is put that to bed.

        I get that and completely agree. I guess FOD just negated it for me because it was very manipulative in the way the story was told.

        Chuck wasn’t alone, and Rye is competent that’s for sure, but he wasn’t there as back-up. He was there to make the Intersect work again. That’s why he lost his life and Chuck got kidnapped.

        To me Sarah never asked Chuck to renounce being a spy, she just asked him to be one with back-up.

        She fed his insecurities and that’s why he didn’t get it, so yeah I don’t blame him, doesn’t mean he can’t be sorry she had to get Thailand on fire because he took needless risks.

        Exactly the same way I could have used an apology from Sarah after the misery arc even though it was Chuck’s fault in the first place.

        My problem is they always throw issues and make the maximum angst with them, but never take the time to properly resolve them. Honestly, it’s probably my problem with every episode.

    • Thanks for editing! 🙂

  7. uplink2 says:

    From Zach Levi .net

    Episode 4.16 is entitled ‘Chuck vs. The First Mate.’

    Major Recurring Guest Star Alert! Vivian, who’s beautiful, charming & intelligent. She’s an Oxford University Historian and is perhaps mistaken when she thinks her fathers an oil tycoon. coughcriminalmastermindcough. Intruigingly, the actress needs to be able to ride horses.
    Also featuring is Boris, an international assissin. Apparently we’re supposed to be thinking ‘Clive Owen’ when we see him.

    • alladinsgenie4u says:

      Chuck saves Vivian from the assassin while on a holiday with Sarah in the country. Vivian sort of falls for him and follows C/S back to Burbank. And in the end she turns out to be Volkoff’s daughter.

      • JC says:

        That would be awesome, maybe Chuck is made her handler since she would trust him. If they played it for comedy with a semi jealous Sarah and some drama with Chuck trying not to lead her on.

      • JC says:

        Half my reply got cut off.

        Or she’s the long lost Bartwoski half sister. Either by Mary or Stephen had his own Jill.

      • alladinsgenie4u says:

        Vivian is sister to a murdered Eve Shaw and she will have her revenge either in this life or the afterlife. 🙂

      • Faith says:

        Jealous Sarah FTW! Hehe.

    • joe says:

      Oops. I saw Genie’s post in the spoiler threat before I saw yours, Uplink. Thanks for doing that.

      We haven’t been too strict about spoilers, here. My own personal opinion is that if it’s something “official” (like, from the networks or from Schwartz and/or Fedak), it’s something they want us to have, or to know and is already scrubbed the way they want. I don’t mind seeing it put in the “active” thread first.

      But you’re right. Some people definitely try to be non-spoiled, and there *are* spoilers out there that people don’t want to see. Out of consideration to them, it’s always proper to confine it the comments in the spoiler pages (links on the right!). That’s always fair.

      Of course, you can always ask us directly (one of the 6 authors will see it quickly if you e-mail Chuckthisblog (at) gmail (dot) com) and we’ll be more than happy to spread the word if it’s not total baloney.

  8. atcDave says:

    Great write-up Joe and Faith. This was certainly a great episode. I’ll call it top 3; with Colonel and Honeymooners as the other two.

    Now I do feel honor bound to defend a position of mine brought up by Joe in the body of the post. I certainly believe Chuck and Sarah were “ready” to be together post “Colonel”. I’ve never claimed the relationship was fully mature, or ready for any challenge at that point. Only that both the natural flow of things, and the bulk of the audience, required Chuck and Sarah to grow together from that point forward instead of the unpopular misery arc we got.
    But I do think most viewers were ready to accept a sort of epic commitment between them from that point on. My main defense for that comes from the realm of fan fiction. The overwhelming majority of stories written during and after S2 are completely comfortable with the idea Chuck and Sarah are ready to face the world together. The longest AUs I know of (except of course “Fates”, which is completely AU and puts the leads together much earlier) use Santa Claus, Colonel, or Ring as the point from which Chuck and Sarah are totally committed to each other. Again, I’m making no sweeping claims for that except; large numbers of viewers/fans were ready/excited by the idea of Chuck and Sarah together at that point. I completely agree Sarah had some growing to do to get to the point where she was ready to say she wanted to marry Chuck and spend the rest of her life with him. But I think the relationship growth we’ve seen this season would actually played even better had it run from the start of S3; rather than loosing 1/3 of our audience first, damaging both main characters, and then getting around to the story the fans wanted.

    • uplink2 says:

      Personally I would have liked to see them run off like planned but then realize like Honeymooners that they wanted both the spy life and the life together and it just wasn’t gonna work without better communicating that fact like the third party did in Honeymooners. But at that point Beckman would not have been as accepting of the idea and would have forced Chuck into training and they would have had to suspend their relationship till they resolved the Chuck is a spy and not an asset question. In Honeymooners she was ok with it because they were both spies and not handler/asset. That would have been an interesting and difficult journey but kept true to what we had known that Sarah would always choose Chuck and Chuck needed to get the first part of his five year plan finished before he could fully work on the second part.

      What Phase Three does that is different than Colonel is that they are a team of equals now and after Colonel they weren’t. So having it all would be difficult and I completely agree that they were even worse communicators after Colonel. Sarah’s stab to the heart of Chuck with his personal kryptonite, Bryce Larkin, at the beginning of Ring 1 is an example of that coming the morning after she said “It Is Real” to him. But as Chuck said in Coup d’Etat is the love still there even after all of life’s changes? And after Colonel it still obviously was and that is why the LI’s failed so miserably.

      • atcDave says:

        Yeah Uplink. I said something similar on the previous thread about how some professional barriers could have worked instead of the LIs. I’m a softy and a romantic, I always would have preferred them happy, facing the world together. But I do think a number of challenges and obstacles are always appropriate.

        If you’re willing to spend a little time on a fun, complete reconstruction of S3, I can’t recommend “Chuck and Sarah vs Themselves” highly enough. It is an inspired and entertaining alternate timeline from the end of “Ring” on. Just follow the “NinjaVanish” link under the fan fiction header at right. He just updated again yesterday and his story is nearing it’s conclusion. Much as I love the show, I like this story even better; and he has no qualms about assuming Colonel changed everything.

    • joe says:

      Well put, Dave. The idea of “ready” vs. “fully mature” is a very good and subtle one.

      I’ll only add that getting there was sweet agony, and I understand having it drawn out is not everyone’s cup of tea.

      Other than that, the last word is yours!

    • Faith says:

      Dave, you know my views aren’t that different from yours but that still doesn’t answer the question about Chuck’s future. I’m a firm believer that you can’t enter in a relationship if you’re incomplete, or unhappy with yourself and I don’t think Chuck in particular was there yet. The whole 10 year plan and what he’s going to do with his life holds me back.

      Having said that, I reiterate what I typed up there…ideally they would have found a way together to make things work but the questions still had to be asked and answers and growth still forthcoming.

      • atcDave says:

        Faith you know my response there is just that none of us are ever fully complete or fully ready or fully deserving of any relationship. Growing together is exactly that; two people still in need of growth, fixing, and love meeting those needs and becoming better as individuals and as a couple (in the case of Chuck, a better professional too).
        I’ll even take it a step further and say I don’t believe any of us can ever be “complete” and alone. I think we were made to need relationships (I’m sure you realize I’m a born again Christian; which means I believe it starts with a need for a relationship with God, but the couple’s relationship is an earthly mirror of that relationship). So I’ll always lean towards the committed love of a couple as the best way to develop the individuals. I’m not trying to be stupid and claim nothing else matters, details from interests to values matter too. But I see no character based reason why Chuck and Sarah would not be ready to face the world together from the end of S2 on. As an anonymous commenter points out below, Sarah was ready to take the plunge at the reception in Ring; had events not intruded, it seems likely Chuck and Sarah would have begun working on a life together at that point. The writers handed us a year long interruption, that still feels pointless to me.

  9. Anonymous says:

    The premise that C/S weren’t ready after Colonel is based on the idea that they weren’t ready to be together due to growth requirements from Sarah. However, at the end of season 2, had Orion not stopped them, she would have told Chuck how she felt about him at that time. She clearly was somewhat ready to be open to him about that. Ofcourse marriage and what not, where they are now was al far from that point, but his rejection of her after season2 did so much dmg it took them to midway s3 to get her back to that point. She wasn’t more ready by that time, I feel she was just as ready at that time as she was at the end of s2.

    • atcDave says:

      Whoever this anonymous commenter is I agree! Which of course is a far greater indicator of genius than signing in…

  10. Akiyama says:

    I hope the episode still gets strong ratings. “Lie to Me” is new tonight, but How I Met Your Mother and CBS’s programming are all re-runs. The big competition for it though is the Auburn/Oregon National Title Game for NCAA Football.. starts at 7:38, so I’d worry there. D: I’ll be watching Phase Three though for sure.

  11. Good evening Joe,Liz,Faith,Ernie,Rick holy and Chuck fans all over the world. This is Bernard! I wish you all a happy and a prosporous New Year. I’m from South Carolina and as you all know that the southeastern part of the U.S. is being hit hard by a major winter storm. So keep us in your thoughts and prayers.

    P.S. I will put out my part 2 article on Chuck Season 3! what was it really all about tomorrow on my blog at w.w.w.chuckthisblog.blogspot.com

  12. JC says:

    Saw a new promo for Chuck.

    Starts with a brief scene with Morgan and Chuck, Chuck and Sarah kiss at what looks like a vineyard, Chuck racing down the halls of Castle towards Beckman and then Chuck kicking crap out of some henchman.

    • alladinsgenie4u says:

      Someone also comes flying out of a window right at the start. 🙂 Could they all be scenes from 4×11? Doubt it though.

      • JC says:

        That looked like it was from the Cape to me.

        And is it wrong the scene with Beckman and Chuck is what got me hyped? It’d be great if those two had to work together or Chuck was protecting her.

      • alladinsgenie4u says:

        Aha! All the Duck shippers are going to go into quacking raptures when Chuck, the hero saves Dianne the Damsel in Distress.

        Jokes aside, it will be great to see Beckman in person again. That Chuck/Beckman scene and the one where Chuck is beating the crap out of some guys (in the courtyard – you can see the lights on the trees) both have him wearing a similar jacket. My guess, since it looks like very high stakes – could be scenes from 4×13.

      • JC says:

        Nice catch, and isn’t that the same jacket in the scene with him and Volkoff from the first promo?

      • alladinsgenie4u says:

        During the Chuck scenes the announcer says that one hero will discover his potential – does that mean we will get to see some new improvements on the Intersect 2.0?

        And that C/S kiss looks to be on a balcony that’s overlooking a vineyard.

      • alladinsgenie4u says:

        JC
        Yep, same jacket. It would be awesome if all these scenes are from 4×11 only.

      • JC says:

        Chuck does seem surprised after he does that wall kick in the promo. Maybe he didn’t flash, embedded skills anyone?? 🙂

      • alladinsgenie4u says:

        I am with you. Embedded Skills FTW!! 🙂

      • JC says:

        My guess those scenes are from 4.12 or 4.13. I can’t see all that happening plus a mission to France.

        I’m wondering if the scene with Volkoff comes first, he fights off the henchman and then the scene in Castle. Obviously more happens in between of course.

      • alladinsgenie4u says:

        Yeah, you are probably right about those scenes being from either 4×12 or 4×13. I am just too greedy and want to see everything next week. 🙂

      • alladinsgenie4u says:

        ChuckTv.net folks just tweeted that there would be promo after tonight’s repeat. If it’s different from the one we saw – I hope Joe et al help us out by putting up the speculation thread for 4×11 soon. We can feel more free to discuss potential spoilers there.

      • uplink2 says:

        There is a different promo at the end of the show. A more traditional 30 coming next week promo. From what I saw I think we can conclude that Chuck now has version 3.0 of the Intersect. He looks surprised at his new abilities. And the three show NBC promo talks about him reaching his potential as a hero.

      • Faith says:

        I’ve updated spoiler page with the promo link. And spoiler tidbit from Kristin.

      • JC says:

        So from watching the promo and the scene where Sarah’s says she’s going to bring his mother back. What are the odds it’s done with Castle in lockdown and C/S are on opposite sides of the glass. Maybe it ties into that scene with Beckman.

      • Joseph (can't be Joe) says:

        Do you think there any chance of us ever seeing Chuck and Sarah go on missions “together”?

      • JC says:

        The main source of tension on the show will always be the relationship, so having C/S working together during the climax of an arc isn’t going to happen.

        Its like Phase Three a fantastic episode but the cause and resolution of the arc were issues between C/S.

        So while it might seem like the drama is about rescuing Mary more than likely it’ll be whether C/S are following the same path as Chuck’s parents. And Sarah being faced with the same choices as Mary.

        I’m not knocking the show but after four seasons we know how the show does things.

      • jason says:

        @JC – I arrived at the same conclusion earlier this season, right around ep 4×6’s end, it was the reason I was so angry about the end, it was not so much the end, simply that it dawned on me, I am not going to get the show I want. (i.e. a spy couple of equals, kicking butt & saving the world.) No big deal, I still like the show. I now simply hope the conflict / angst / misery between chuck and sarah is not too contrived and too miserable – but instead has a sense of dignity and cleverness to it. I have some hope that things will play out that way, but I do not trust TPTB to deliver yet, I hope some day I can look back on chuck’s run and say they did one bad season and 6 or 8 or 10 great ones.

      • Joseph (can't be Joe) says:

        Oh I’m not knocking it. The next few episodes look like they’re going to be great and lot’s of fun.

        It’s just, like you, I thought we’d get a bit more “us against the world” stuff (then we have, there has been a bit) which would also be great and fun.

      • jason says:

        TPTB really struggle with putting CS on screen together for serious spy missions (bottle, fluff, comedy eps a couple, serious spy / drama, nope), even with the promise they would.

        CS as a super spy couple is a struggle for TPTB, like we thought bryce and sarah were, like in some universe shaw and sarah were, and like seemngly casey and sarah are, chuck and sarah are not.

      • alladinsgenie4u says:

        Joseph, Jason and JC

        I too have given up hope of seeing Chuck and Sarah working together as a spy team on a continuous basis although I had high hopes after 3×14 and 3×15. But as JC says, after 4 years, we should know better.

      • ChuckNewbie8 says:

        You guys are harshing my buzz!

        Just kidding, it’s all good. But to make yourself feel better, check out this spoiler (SPOILER!) clip from Balcony courtesy of TVLine.

      • alladinsgenie4u says:

        Faith

        Thanks. That was hilarious. Reminds me of the scene from 2×06 – Chuck and Jill at the restaurant and Chuck ordering Casey around.

      • ChuckNewbie8 says:

        More good news: last night’s P3 replay got a 2.2., 0.8.

        “Next was NBC’s repeat line-up of Chuck (#4: 2.2 share / 3 million viewers)”

        I’m fairly certain that’s share and not 18-49. But I’ll double check with TVBythenumbers for sure.

        UPDATED!

      • patty says:

        Oh that was just hilarious!! Casey’s gonna kill Chuck!!!!

        Is it just me or has Zac lost weight?

      • thinkling says:

        Faith: HILARIOUS clip. Of course the cover will end. Chuck better be wounded or Casey will kill him.

        Thanks

      • atcDave says:

        Thanks Faith for the very fun clip!

    • Is this Beckman in Castle between the shot with Morgan and Chuck and the CS kiss?

      Is Diane finally letting her feelings out and locking Chuck in Castle with her?

      Duck FTW!

      • patty says:

        Can’t find the Beckman clip! I have seen 4 different ones now…. No Beckman.

      • Here it is:

        http://www.youtube (dot) com/user/rac2873#p/a/u/0/kyQ9gG9Bf2w

      • Verkan_Vall says:

        @Jason – a while back I was asking for advice on how to get some people who had left the show back into watching it. Your advice was to make a trade, I watch something they like, if they’ll watch some Chuck (no Shaw). It WORKED! My friends are Fringers; I started watching Fringe again (I stopped in the middle of the 2nd season) and they’ve started watching Chuck again.

        They left after the Final Exam, so I started them off on Honeymooners, Role Models and the Tooth. Then I bought them the first four episodes of season 4 from Amazon on demand. They’re in again.

        I really think this episode (Phase 3) had a significant impact; the positive buzz that it generated had everyone I know who left Chuck talking about the show again, and I think it contributed to the rise in ratings for Leftovers.

        I have to wonder about those ratings; in addition to the reputation that the show has for season 3, its almost like there is a headwind Chuck has to fight against. I wonder if the showrunners haven’t gone and screwed themselves but good. I can’t remember the last time I saw a positive opinion expressed online towards Fedak and Schwarz, and all of the fans from the first two seasons that I know despise them and don’t hesitate to say it. If even they won’t watch the show, they’re still angry at the showrunners more than half a year after season 3 ended.

        I’m beginning to think that Schwarz and Fedak have an anti-fanbase now, hundreds of thousands of x-fans who won’t watch what they make and who generate a constant background of bad press, negative word-of-mouth. If they can’t fix that with season 4, it could follow them the rest of their careers.

        Enough with the negative vibes. Thanks for the review and thanks again, Jason.

      • jason says:

        glad it worked, it worked for me too, I happily am watching friday night lights as result, although it is in its last season, and season 5 involved a painful LI for the fan fav shipper couple, but that is another story …

        I like fringe, but have not been real wild over season 3’s alt – universe concept … in practice it has not been as stupid as I thought, but much like FNL and Chuck, I don’t think fringe is going to be around too long – smallville is ending too, I wonder if new similar shows will replace them, or if more or less this genre is ending?

      • FNL and Fringe are two really great shows.

        What LI are you talking about Jason?

      • jason says:

        Crumby – have you watched Season 5? If not, I don’t want to spoil it for you, if so, as far as I know, there really is only one LI of note, the LI just ended in last weeks ep

      • Yes I’m seen S5. I see who you’re talking about then. I wasn’t seeing that character as getting in between a couple, but I see your point.

        I love that show!

  13. Ernie Davis says:

    I can’t speak for Joe, but I always find the episodes that simply rock my world the hardest to write about. Give me the frustrating ones and I can write you an Atlas Shrugged like piece (as we have seen in the past couple of days) but Phase Three? I’m stumped.

    Apparently not. 😉 I am waaayyyy behind, and there was so much awesome left to comment on in the last thread, and now this one, and a new Chuck promo…

    Uplink is right, sleep has to go.

  14. thinkling says:

    Great post, Joe and Faith. Phase 3 is just hard to beat, and Yvonne’s depth and breadth were showcased as never before. I certainly agree, Faith, that Chuck was not passive in this episode. He was fighting just as hard as Sarah, and the back and forth between her fight and his was great. It took a lot of imagination (great word) and creativity to come up with this show/don’t tell episode.

    Joe, in the dream scenes you point out that the real Sarah didn’t manipulate Chuck at all. That’s true. She also didn’t converse with him. There was another detail that I didn’t catch for what it was at first (and I’m afraid I don’t explain it very well). All the induced dreams from his subconscious were dialogues; the give and take made sense. The Sarah sequence in the end is different. It looks like a conversation, but it doesn’t sound like one. The give and take is off, as is the pacing, since it’s really Sarah’s monologue to which Chuck is responding in his head. Chuck’s thoughts respond to Sarah’s words, but her words don’t respond back. From the words it’s clear that it’s not a conversation, and the pacing between Chuck’s thoughts and Sarah’s words is off just enough to show that it’s her monologue. Sorry if I’m pointing out the obvious, but I thought it was so well done, and that detail was a nice touch.

  15. Tamara Burks says:

    I think Chuck really had every reason to be insecure about losing Sarah attention without the Intersect. He’s lost it twice before . The first time she was going to leave with Bryce as far as we know, the second she seemed way too willing(saying for me is not an attempt to stop him , saying that Chuck was the country’s most important itelligent asset and that he would be able to access the Intersect again would have been a good attempt , shooting Shaw would have been even better) to let Shaw blow him up (he might know that if he looked at the security footage ) and with this last time she spent all of the time he was trying to get it back on missions and then there was the you’re not a spy comment after earlier saying that he was.

    Beckman finally making it clear that Chuck was an asset even without the Intersect was a great thing since the closest they came to that before was asking him to be an analyst in the Ring and they didn’t really try to hard to keep him plus why would he want to be an analyst on Bryce’s team.

  16. iNewbie says:

    Anyone knows how the ratings for the rerun have been?

    • atcDave says:

      I believe that’s actually up a little from what the other re-runs had been on this break. Maybe cause for cautious optimism, between better rerun numbers and some actual promotion during football playoffs (very well rated playoffs at that!) maybe we’ll see a good trend start next week.

      • iNewbie says:

        @Crumby Thanks! ^^

        @Dave I really hope you’re right. Looks like NBC’s promoting Chuck pretty well…

    • jason says:

      2 things – first, a sepinwall article about NBC in general, buried in there a line about chuck being above 50% for renewal:

      http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/whats-alan-watching/posts/press-tour-why-nbcs-leadership-vacuum-has-been-a-good-thing

      second, schwartz and fedak will be on sepinall’s podcast next week

      • Faith says:

        A good read thanks!

        He’s got a point, on any other network Chuck wouldn’t even have had a chance to mount a fan campaign, it’d be over before then. While we bemoan the lack of promotion and attention, at the very least they have given and continue to give Chuck a chance.

      • atcDave says:

        Of course on any other network Chuck might get another million in the key demo numbers…

      • joe says:

        That’s very true, Dave. I was thinking that it’s hard to separate Chuck‘s ratings from the network’s ability to support and promote it. I don’t think anyone can say with confidence that the show would either fail or flourish on any other network. As it is, I’m just glad it’s still around for us to enjoy.

        I’m also gratified that the review gives it better than even odds to be renewed. He’s guessing, but I agree. My gut still says that it’ll be a while before NBCs new management have enough confidence to whack away at their few islands of stability.

        Of course, Comcast has not exactly been what I consider to be icons of great corporate management either.

      • atcDave says:

        Agree with all that Joe. Especially having dealt with ComCast customer service a few times over the years; let’s just say I’m cautious about the future.

      • jason says:

        One theory I stated b4 this season started, one of the other blog runners made a statement the event would kill chuck, my comment back was chuck has thumped any and all comers on NBC monday, I turned out right. Now that sing along show on paper might appear strong, but IMO they simply reeled in the idle DWTS crowd, I’d welcome that sing along crap in the EVent or Cape’s spot for a season, chuck would hammer it too, when the sing along show had to compete with DWTS. Without the DWTS lead in this monday, castle barely beat a re-run of Hawaii 5 O by the way.

      • uplink2 says:

        One thing I’ve seen discussed that intrigues me is if Chuck were on another network and more successful in the ratings would it still be the same show? Would it have followed the more traditional TV series path of never getting the couple together till like season 6 or 7 if ever? Would it be as delightfully quirky? Though I love TBBT it is getting a bit stale to me at times because they really are not evolving the characters much at all. Sheldon is almost becoming a cliche of himself with very repetitive storylines. Could that have happened to Chuck? If the misery arc had not been received so poorly last season would we have the much more enjoyable “couply” arc this season? I don’t know. Same thing with Community that Sepinwall likes and so do I. If it were more successful would it be the same show?

        As my daughter said when I got her watching Chuck, niche off beat cult type shows are much better because they appeal to their hard core fans and don’t try to appeal to a wider audience and dilute what makes them great.

      • Ernie Davis says:

        Uplink, it’s funny you should mention TBBT. I’ve recently thought it getting a bit too predictable and stale, well basically what you said … Just as it gets a three season renewal! Interesting thoughts.

      • atcDave says:

        Even if Chuck had been more successful all along, I think loosing 1/3 of its audience so quickly would have been noticed. Of course I’m making the assumption that a larger audience would have responded the same way. Its possible if there were a larger percentage of casual viewers that they would have responded less violently to an unpopular arc. My own anecdotal research indicates the casual viewers were overwhelmingly less patient with the misery arc; but 8 viewers is not very good from a statistical perspective.

        Now the reverse issue is if Chuck’s appeal isn’t broad enough to ever generate more viewers than what it has. If that’s the case, we’ve had the perfect situation.

      • Verkan_Vall says:

        Dave:

        I think you’re right when you say that a larger audience would have reacted the same way; from what I’ve seen, the casual viewers began peeling away right from the start. It wasn’t that they wouldn’t watch the show at all, it was that Chuck became just another TV show to them, one they would switch to and check out for a few minutes, and then switch away to another show if something else seemed more interesting or if the misery element showed up. The diehard fans that I knew stuck it out, watching the entire episode week after week, until they couldn’t stand anymore and just stopped watching at all.

        It was my diehard friends that got me into Chuck; I work Monday nights and I never saw the first 2 seasons broadcast. They got tired of bending my ear about the show and bought me the Season 1 and 2 dvds as gifts, saying “Watch these, or we break your legs.” And how can any man resist women who talk like that? I was hooked with the premiere, and with my shift changing, I looked forward to watching a great show with 7 good friends. To say that Season 3 was disappointing is an understatement.

        My friends stopped watching Chuck when they believed that the show they loved had disappeared. I was the only one of us all who actually watched the season 3 finale. Now I’m back to working Monday nights, but here’s hoping that season 4 can continue to bring some of the old fans back to the show.

      • atcDave says:

        I’m glad it didn’t come down to the leg breaking!
        My experience with casual viewers is similar. Most of them didn’t become as bitter as some of us did (okay, me); they just stopped making the show a priority. The good news is, most of them have returned to watching regularly after I showed them some 3.5 episodes. I only know of one viewer who is so hostile she refuses to watch again.

        So yeah, I think a larger audience would have behaved similarly to what we actually saw in S3.

  17. Good afternoon Joe,Faith,Ernie,Jason,actdave,Rick Holy,thinkling and all the rest of the Chuck fans! Part 2 of may article of Chuck season 3 what was it really all about? is on my blog. I know it suppose to go out yesterday, but the snow storm we had over the weekend in the deep south has played havic with the internet.

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  19. Joe,Ernie,thinkling,atcdave,faith,liz,Rick Holy and the rest of the Chuck fans everywhere!Disregard my previous blog email adress. part 1 and 2 of my article Chuck season 3 What it was really all about? is on my blog at http://www.bernardthisblog.blogspot.com

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  21. Joe,Ernie,thinkling,atcdave,faith,liz,Rick Holy and the rest of the Chuck fans everywhere!Disregard my previous blog email adress. part 1 and 2 of my article Chuck season 3 What it was really all about? is on my blog email adress http://www.bernardthisblog.blogspot.com

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