Fight Night: The Summer Poll Season Continues.

Take This Poll Or She Will Blow Your Freaking Head Off

So it turns out that Mondays are now just … Mondays.  Then again Fridays just got a lot more awesome.  To help us all with the transition (and to ease back the saccharine sweetness and wedding squees for a minute) it’s time to look at another of those things Chuck does so well, fun fights and awesome action.  For a show with a limited budget they really manage to pull of some great action and fight scenes, thanks to Emmy Award Winning Stunt Coordinator Merritt Yohnka, a great stunt crew, and actors who can pull off as much of the fights and stunts as the Chuck cast does.  While Yvonne gets most of the credit playing a butt-kicking ninja, Zach is actually coming along nicely.  Adam, despite a clear talent for the action from his Jayne Cobb days, is getting on in years, so Casey just shoots ’em lately, or gets beat up by Chuck or Sarah for the mission, so we’ll give him some time off.  Join us to rate and discuss your favorite Chuck and Sarah fight scenes, after the jump.

First up, since the show is still called Chuck we’ll go with the Chuck-fu.  Alas we may see less of this next season, so it’s infused with a bit of nostalgia.  Vote for the Best Bartowski Beatdowns, pick 4.

                                                                                                                                                    Next up are Sarah’s smackdown’s.  Pick your favorite 3.

                                                                                                                                                    Then there is that special category just for Sarah, the best of the Fitzroy’s.  Pick 3.

                                                                                                                                                 As always, feel free to tell us what I missed and share your favorites in comments.

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About Ernie Davis

I was born in 1998, the illegitimate brain child and pen name of a surly and reclusive misanthrope with a penchant for anonymity. My offline alter ego is a convicted bibliophile and causes rampant pognophobia whenever he goes out in public. He wants to be James Lileks when he grows up or Dave Barry if he doesn’t.  His hobbies are mopery, curling and watching and writing about Chuck.  Obsessively.  Really, the dude needs serious help.
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40 Responses to Fight Night: The Summer Poll Season Continues.

  1. Jen says:

    “and to ease back the saccharine sweetness… ”

    Silly thought… “Zachary sweetness”. You all should be happy i’m not ashamed to admit i thought that to all of you 😛 LOL

    Very true, Zac has been doing awesome in his fight scenes… not so much the wet noodle he was joked about in an interview, bur Yvonne is still my girl, she’s so incredible in those fight scenes! I’d definitely never wanna get in a fight with her!

    I’m expecting anything Phase 3 and First Fight to do super well in the poll. I haven’t watched the early S4 eps in a while, so i can’t really remember all the fights that happened then. Maybe i need a veg out weekend and do a super marathon!

    Have a nice day guys! i have to go call the Apple store now :/

    • Ernie Davis says:

      Hey Jen, thanks for stopping by. I don’t think anything can beat the Phase Three fight for pure awesomeness. 😀

      My fear for next season is that they’ll dial back on the Chuck fight scenes. But hey, he clocked the guard that called Sarah a “dirty girl” without the intersect, so maybe next year Chuck can have his own one hit wonders.

      • atcDave says:

        Yeah I’m thinking (hoping) we’ll see Chuck start taking training and conditioning seriously since he no longer has an Intersect to fall back on.

      • Crumby says:

        I’d like Chuck to use alternative ways to knock out people. I mean, if I want pure fighting, there’s Casey.

        Chuck can use his brain to fight too, using his environment, objects around him, that sort of stuff. He needs to train but I don’t want him to become a Kung-fu master, that’s not who he is.

        I hope they don’t give up the fights with Sarah ala Honeymooners or First Fight though.

      • Crumby says:

        Basically Chuck needs to keep doing what he did when the Intersect wasn’t enough, like in Gobbler.

      • Jen says:

        I wouldn’t mind seeing Chuck being a little more physical, but i’m sure his forte will always be his use of his smarts to get out of situations.

        For some reason i was thinking “Heroe’s Journey” this morning… yeah, weird… kinda trying to explain what S3 was all about and if having a Intersectless Chuck in S5 is part of this Journey… now he proves himself, that he doesn’t need anything added to himself to be the hero.
        Maybe?

      • wax_eagle says:

        “Seriously you don’t do any core?”

        Gonna have to change that now.

      • jason says:

        as many of you know, I am happy as along as chuck and sarah are a couple, in love, in trust, and taking on the world together, none of the rest of the story matters too much to me, as long as it somewhat makes sense and keeps the mythology crowd happy.

        I wonder if the mythology crowd would get frustrated if chuck sort of is trained, a hangover effect from the many times he flashed, that he has a bit of muscle memory. Something along the lines in a crisis moment, ‘Sarah, I still know kung-fu – sort of’

      • Crumby says:

        Haven’t we been down that road before though? Casey already told him that back in Other Guy and that was a season and a half ago. Since then, he stopped Volkoff and saved Sarah without the Intersect. I really hope we don’t go back to Chuck proving himself. He has already, let’s move on.

        Having said that, it’s a new challenge and he will have to adapt to this new configuration, so I’m looking forward to that.

      • Crumby says:

        Wouldn’t that muscle memory have appeared somewhere in FOD or Leftovers though Jason?

      • Ernie Davis says:

        Well, I’ve had it in my head that season 5 will open with some sort of time jump. We’ll see Castle completely refitted, and we’ll see Sarah training Chuck and Casey training Morgan. I also see Chuck’s training going a lot better since Sarah has motivational tools that Casey lacks.

        Perfect scene, Chuck and Sarah back with the Bo staffs, Chuck saying something like this is a lot less scary than last time.

        But that’s just me and my preference.

      • Crumby says:

        Season premiere speculation: the opening scene will be a callback to the opening scene from the pilot. We’ll think Chuck and Morgan are in some sort of mission, but it will be just training or something like that.

      • thinkling says:

        Ernie, I like the idea of a time jump, with Castle all fitted out, and I really like the idea of training.

        I also like the idea of residual Intersect knowledge and skills stored in Chuck’s brain in neurological (as opposed to digital) ways because of Ellie’s mods. He wouldn’t flash, but like any normal person who has at one time learned skills, he would need to train to keep them and perfect them.

        I like that there’s enough in there to help him out in fighting skills, but I’m fine with him not flashing, and I don’t need the spectacular any more (like the wine glass in Balcony and the leap to the balcony in Last Details).

        I will be a little sad if we have to give up CS fight scenes like Honeymooners, First Fight, and FBoE.

        Haven’t voted yet. It’s hard to decide.

      • thinkling says:

        @Crumby: I’m thinking the muscle memory didn’t show up in FOD or Leftovers, because that was pre Ellie-tampering. She immediately changed the way the Intersect stored date, so it was more like the human brain and less like a computer.

        I keep hoping we see something come of that …

      • Crumby says:

        Yeah I agree with that Thinkling, I just wish they had hinted at it already if they want to go that way. They didn’t make any reference to the Intersect working differently since Chuck downloaded the Orion-Ellie Intersect in Leftovers.

        I don’t like when they conveniently avoid to talk about something just to bring it up way too many episodes later.

        They didn’t have to delve into it but a “it feels lighter” or whatever would have been great. You’d think Chuck would have mentioned by now that it felt different in some way.

      • atcDave says:

        I love the idea of castle training sessions. I think remembering something from having the new Intersect is the most appealing way to go; although I wish they’d referenced that in some way during Cliffhanger like Chuck was “almost remembering” or “remembering some” of what he knew before.
        They’ve pretty much said he won’t be back to being helpless, after all its been clearly said Chuck will be protecting Morgan. And while I’m perfectly happy to see Sarah be the stronger fighter of the two of them, Chuck should at least be a helpful partner, and not a weak link.

      • thinkling says:

        Agree Crumby and Dave, that reference or a breadcrumb of the residual Intersect would have been nice.

        Dave, you hit my worry on the head. I don’t want Chuck to be defenseless, or worse a liability. It will be interesting to see how they work that out.

      • louzeyre says:

        Like Dave and Thinkling, my main fear about how the season ended was that Chuck would end up once again helpless, a liability or just a brain again in Season 5. Especially after the interviews with the Chris Fedak and Josh Schwartz seemed to indicate that Chuck would have to navigate the spy world with his “smarts.” Hopefully you’re right, and the line that he will be protecting Morgan is an indication that he’ll still be able to defend himself somewhat. I can’t help but think it would be hard for him to protect his best friend if he can’t, but I can’t help but worry they may mean it in as giving Morgan advice or directions, especially after how helpless they made Chuck during the intersect-less arc this season. During Season 3 they seemed to be having Chuck use more and more skills without flashing, whether it be shooting tranq guns, punching out an Interpol Agent in Honeymooners and the Ring Justin in The Ring Part II or throwing a knife at Shaw in Subway, but how Chuck’s acted without the intersect this season has made me wary that they won’t be following up on that thread. Hopefully I’m wrong.

      • thinkling says:

        Hi Louzeyre. Let me encourage you a little. I really think the Chuck of the Intersect-less arc is gone for good. In Push Mix he stepped into his father’s legacy and never glanced back. He has gained confidence and determination unrelated to the Intersect. And he has a deep security, like never before, with Sarah as his wife. All the growth they inspired in each other is galvanized by their marriage.

        Looking back at Chuck post Push Mix, we see Chuck operating with confidence and skill, many times without the Intersect. He almost always starts fights without it. Now, I hope he will train enough to stay in the fight without it, when necessary. He uses the tranque gun all the time without flashing. He parachutes without it. He saved the day in Push Mix and Cliff Hanger without it.

        It will be fun to see a confident Chuck using all his considerable skills for his new “A-Team.” I just hope they give him enough fighting skill to hold his own and back up his team. (He can train with Sarah … a much better trainer than Cinnamon.)

      • Ernie Davis says:

        Let me step in and defend intersectless Chuck. He wasn’t helpless, he was just constantly pitted against impossible odds that he would have previously handled via intersect. Even Sarah would have a tough time with three Ninjas, and was having a tough time with Volkoff’s three top assasins when Chuck couldn’t offer much help (whereas before the two of them took on a bank full of Volkoff’s people). Chuck wasn’t afraid to mix it up or totally helpless, he was just constantly overmatched.

      • thinkling says:

        Point taken, Ernie. That’s very true. We tend to forget that.

        Basically there are 3 classes of situations. First, situations Chuck can handle without the Intersect, either through a combination of some physical skills (parachuting, tranquing, or throwing a few punches) and his smarts. Second, situations where he or he and Sarah are over-matched (or would be without the Intersect), like Sophia’s 5 men in suitcase or the bank fight in First Fight or Volkoff’s three assassins in Leftovers. And third, impossible situations, like the 10 Volkoff men in Anniversary. In classes 2 and 3 situations, Chuck has relied on the Intersect to win.

        In a class 2 type situation, decent fighting skills would suffice. In the case of Volkoff’s 3 assassins, if Chuck had possessed even modest skills, they could have handled it. Again, a duo fight like the one in First Fight can be pulled off without the Intersect, if Chuck has decent fighting skills.

        I guess what I’m saying is that I hope Chuck trains enough to be able to handle class 2 situations. Class 3, the impossible situations? Well, Casey will just have to handle those with his Crown Vic. 😉

      • atcDave says:

        As long as we don’t always have Morgan save the day…

        I’m still pretty sure we’ll like the result. I guess all I really base that on is how worried we were about Chuck’s lies and secrets after S3 and they addressed that quickly and satisfactorily in 4.01.
        Of course on the other hand, we had no idea how much grief we were really in for after S2…

        Hopefully they realize Morgan can’t actually carry the show. And even when we appreciate him as comic relief we don’t really want him taking screen time from Chuck and Sarah.

      • thinkling says:

        As long as we don’t always have Morgan save the day… …Hopefully they realize Morgan can’t actually carry the show. And even when we appreciate him as comic relief we don’t really want him taking screen time from Chuck and Sarah.

        Right, Dave. Nobody wants it to become Morgan instead of Chuck. But from what they’ve said, I think they still plan to have Chuck saving the day and being the main hero.

        I’m not worried in a big way, at all, but I wanted to get my disclaimer out in the open, in that I do recognize the potential pitfalls. Overall my anticipation is high and my mood excited and optimistic.

      • Crumby says:

        Chuck will always be the focus, and they went out of their way to make him look good ever since Push Mix. If he doesn’t fight as much, they’ll still have him save the day somehow. Although they’ll play the comedy of Morgansect and he may accidentally save the day from time to time. Morgan did that already anyway.

        I’m really more worried about Sarah and Casey not having much to do than Chuck. I mean, besides being the muscle and wearing sexy outfits.

      • Ernie Davis says:

        Thinkling, I agree, IMHO they need to train Chuck up to at least close to Sarah’s level (hence the time jump/training montage). I’d be fine if smart Chuck handles the 5 on 1 or 10 on 2 situations by outhinking the enemy ahead of time, or if Morgansect the magnet tries to save the day and distracts the bad guys long enough for Chuck, Sarah and Casey to regain the upper hand.

        Crumby, don’t dismiss the importance of sexy outfits. Remember the Nerd Herd disguise got them past security in season 2. I personally hope they remain a vital weapon in the Team B arsenal. 😉

      • Crumby says:

        I really don’t know if I’d want Chuck to train that much. First because it shouldn’t be that easy and second because it’s just not Chuck to me. He’s not James Bond, which means he doesn’t fight like James Bond.

        In Anniversary, Chuck and Morgan never used the Intersect while they did their research/field trips. Chuck was Chuck-fu “rusty”. They handled themselves. Even though, their default settings seemed to have been to run, now they’ll have resources, like tranq guns and the like to compensate. Chuck can go back to create gadgets like his tranq gloves.

        He’s way more experienced, confident and competent now, I really don’t see why he’d need to train that much. Sure he needs to handle himself a little bit more that he used to when he didn’t have the 2.0, but that’s all for me and he’s pretty much already there.

      • jason says:

        I think morgan is going to more take casey’s & sarah’s time, ball park chuck is in near 90% of the A plot, sarah in 60%, morgan in 60% and casey in 30% – I would rather see chuck & sarah 80%, casey and morgan in 40% – leave it to a nerdy engineer to make both those add up to 240%, I guess that means on average 2.4 chuck’s, sarah’s, casey’s and morgan’s per A plot scene – LOL

  2. Crumby says:

    I’m not sure if I feel comfortable choosing between Fitzroys. Any Fitzroy is a win on my book! 😉

    • joe says:

      Heh! I hear that, Crumby! 😉

    • thinkling says:

      It’s more often what goes with the punch.

      – The “sorry” before the Suitcase body guard.
      – The boyfriend remark after the Phase 3 punch.
      – The change in demeanor from seductress to lioness w/ Marco in Anniversary.
      – The “that felt good” after Heather Chandre in Cubic Z.
      – The calm “fair question” before taking out Volkoff’s body guards.
      – The range of dialogue (playful banter to menacing threats) in FBoE.

      Yvonne’s delivery is great whether it’s punches or punch lines … or facial expressions.

    • Crumby says:

      Oh yeah it’s definitely more than just the punch. Also, the ones in Aisle of Terror or Wedding Planner were funny on themselves.

      I like those funny lines with it, it kind of reminds me of Buffy. She always had something funny to say when fighting.

      • thinkling says:

        Yeah, I loved the vicious swing in Wedding Planner, followed by the matter-of-fact “got mine.”

    • atcDave says:

      I like the way Sarah/Yvonne has developed her own style with those lines too. Way back in Tango (1.03) they gave her the cheesy action hero sort of line (“hang here”) which, much as I love that episode, doesn’t really play well with Sarah’s character. What’s come about in the last couple seasons is more often ironic or even thoughtful (“sorry”) and less punny. The lines are often appropriate, and funny often because they aren’t meant to be.

      • thinkling says:

        You’re right, Dave, I hadn’t thought of it that way before. It’s an endearing side of the real girl that we didn’t get to see much before she and Chuck were together. I appreciated the tank … Chuck we’re running away together … you’re not going to ask me to move in with you again …

        Yvonne has been brilliant in developing Sarah. Before they were together she showed us a lot below the surface, but the fun has been watching it break free, and that includes the dry, perfectly timed lines that are endearing and so funny.

    • louzeyre says:

      I think my favorite “one hit wonder” for Sarah is actually in the comic book. She’s undercover as a Princess at a theme park and close-lines the bad guy with her magic wand, without even turning around to look at him.

  3. lappers84 says:

    Awwwww man I can’t decide too many good ones to choose from. Maybe someone else could choose for me 🙂

  4. lappers84 says:

    We talk about all the cool action sequences performed by Chuck and Sarah individually (and of course Sarah one hits) but what we need to see more of is Chuck and Sarah double teaming the bad guys and I’m fairly sure there have only been three main scenes that show that. Let’s hope TPTB consider that for season 5.

  5. Ernie Davis says:

    The judges scores are tallied and the results are in. For the Best Bartowski Beatdown, the top three are:

    3) Nobody calls Sarah a “dirty one” in Last Details
    2) The First Bank of Macau in FBoE
    1) The Big Guys in First Fight

    For Sarah’s Smackdowns your top three picks are:

    3) Having Fun With Volkoff’s Three Guards
    2) First Bank of Evil. & Catwalk Catfight in Suitcase in a tie
    1) In The Ring in Phase Three in a landslide.

    And finally, the one we are waiting for, yet all must know the result, the best of the Fitzroys:

    3) The Top Dog Challenger in The Gobbler
    2) Giant Blonde Shemale Goes Apocalypse Now in Phase Three
    1) Sarah’s New Boyfriend in Phase Three in what appears to be a unanimous decision.

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