These Are a Few of Our Favorite Themes: The Intersect

The show ended two years – seven months – one week and 5 days ago. We discussed the finale for months. We’ve discussed episodes and seasons and alternatives for episodes and seasons. What more could we possibly have to say? And yet, here we are, not wanting to walk away from Chuck … or each other. So now what?

Obviously CHUCK captured our attention as few (okay no) shows do. We were hooked by the action and adventure, drama and romance, heart and humor … not to mention the show’s ability to turn on a dime and give us all of those in a single episode. But what held us were CHUCK’s intangibles: the themes and ideals that made us root for the characters and engage in their stories. These themes gave the show, that might otherwise have been no more than a comic book, weight and made the characters relatable. So, we here at the ChuckThis Blog thought it would be fun to talk about some of our favorite CHUCK themes.

One theme we know is true: It’s hard to say goodbye. If you’re not ready to say goodbye,

I’ll start with the theme that started it all: The Intersect. While not a theme per se — more of a device — the Intersect was the hook of the show and the first domino in the cascading events that drove the story that entertained us and warmed our hearts for five years … and counting.

This is a five part post. What can I say, the Intersect is a theme that spans the entire series, and it got, well … kind of long. So this is part 1. The other parts will follow at the rate of one a day.


Stephen’s Eleven. The Intersect had its own story and development. However, it wasn’t revealed chronologically. What we thought was the first domino, turned out to be a domino somewhere in the middle of the story. So, let’s put the  Intersects in order.

The Hartley/Volkoff Intersect (call it ground zero) was designed to implant a complete, quasi-innate identity into an operative, so he could go undercover with no risk of detection. It was a brilliant plan that went horribly wrong. Whether by malfunction or sabotage — accident or conspiracy — the cover identity took over, suppressing the host’s real identiy. The original developers were Stephen, Roark, and Hartley.

The Intersect Chuck uploaded as a child (call it the alpha) was experimental and probably much smaller than the one Bryce sent him. It was clear from that upload that Chuck’s brain had an unusual capacity for data.

The Intersect Stephen uploaded to test on himself (the beta) was probably most like the one Bryce sent to Chuck. We know it contained government data.

The Intersect Bryce sent Chuck (1.0) still needed a special brain, and Bryce knew that Chuck’s brain could handle it.

The CIA Intersect that was about to go online in First Date was sabotaged and went out with a bang, taking Dir. Graham and Intersect a group of candidates with it.

Fulcrum’s Intersect was their own proprietary version, which produced disastrous results in every test subject … until Chuck.

The 2.0, though presumably improved for broader use, was very dangerous. It had a skills component on board that made it harder to control. It also seemed to be hard wired with a survival, fight or flight fight response. This Intersect was even harder on the brain and needed a governor to keep it from frying the brain’s circuits.

After Ellie found Orion’s laptop in the Mustang, she, being a neurologist instead of an engineer, solved some of the issues with the 2.0. Meet the 2.1 — brain friendly, no governor required. From then on the Intersect would be suitable for a broader pool of hosts. This Intersect stayed in Chuck’s brain until Decker removed it in Cliffhanger.

The Intersect the GRETAs uploaded was modified to eliminate much of the human factor, in order to create unquestioning soldiers … call it version 2.1.b (b for bad).

The tainted version that was sent to Chuck (presumably to destroy him), but uploaded by Morgan and later by Sarah, was engineered to cause memory loss — version 2.1.e (e for evil.)

The pristine version (3.0) that TeamB stole from DARPA included the improvements Ellie made after Bentley returned it to her. It was the last in a long line of Intersects and was still in Chuck’s brain as the final credits rolled.

Did I miss one? 🙂

Cause and Effect

Of course, we can’t think of the Intersect as merely an evolving invention, like a car or a toaster. More than a device or just the first domino, the Intersect was this specter … a capricious presence that drove the story and catalyzed Chuck’s (and by extension, Sarah’s) growth. Each stirring of the Intersect pushed the story in a new direction and presented our heroes with new challenges to overcome.

I guess it all began with a scientist. His codename was Orion, but his real name was Stephen Bartowski.

We didn’t hear the rest of Mary’s story, which would have been seriously redacted, but it began with a brilliant scientist, who was working on a program for the government. He fell in love with a CIA agent, code name Frost. They married and had a baby girl (1978). A couple of years later, when the Intersect prototype was ready for trial, Stephen’s best friend volunteered to test it. Nov 21, 1980, Hartley Winterbottom was implanted with a cover identity and went under cover into Russia as Alexei Volkoff to aid in Cold War efforts against Russia, where he went deeper and stayed longer than planned. (The historical context was the Reagan/Thather era of the Cold War.)

Less than a year later on Sept 18, 1981, the Bartowski family increased by one — a baby boy. They were a happy, normal family for nine years. Soon after the boy turned 8, on Nov 9, 1989, the Berlin wall fell. Check Point Charlie was open, and the Cold War was over.

Olly Olly Oxen Free.

Instead of Hartley No-One-Names-A-Person-That Winterbottom coming home to Somerset, Alexei Volkoff emerged as a post Cold-War Russian Oligarch and arms dealer, selling off Russia’s arsenal to the highest underworld bidders. In the months following the end of the Cold War, the CIA realized that Hartley’s Intersect was unstable, and that they had created one of the most murderous men in the history of the world (facts, the mere knowledge of which could get a person killed). About a year later, the CIA sent Mary Bartowski undercover to bring down Volkoff and his evil empire.

The First Domino.

This one domino started branching domino chains in the Chuckverse bearing directly on world events, the CIA, the balance of powers, wars, factions, and governments. We’ll be following the Bartowski domino chain that affected Chuck directly. Keep in mind, however, that there were various domino chains that developed separately and then reintersected the Bartowski chain at various stages of Chuck’s life: think Omaha project, Roark, Fulcrum, Heather Chandler, the Ring, Volkoff, the Costa Gravas Generalissimo, Decker, Shaw, Quinn. They were all involved in a chain of events that connected back to that first domino and ultimately impacted Chuck and Sarah’s life in fateful ways.

The shock waves of the Hartley/Volkoff Intersect sent the Bartowski family careening off its happy course. Chuck and Ellie were abandoned by their mother and never knew why. Their father, after his wife’s disappearence, was there, but he wasn’t really there. Driven to keep his family safe, fix his friend, and bring his wife home, he dedicated himself to fixing the Intersect and doing things governments are afraid to do. Finally he, too, disappeared from Chuck and Ellie’s lives with no explanation.

This tragic sequence of events molded Chuck and Ellie. Surprisingly, it made them stronger. They pulled together and learned how to take care of themselves and rely on each other. In the midst of a truly dysfunctional situation, they created a remarkably normal family, even while carrying the wounds from these events caused by the Intersect.

His life back on track, Chuck was about to graduate from Stanford in Engineering, when his life was poisoned yet again by Intersect fallout. Bryce got him kicked out of Stanford to keep him from being conscripted into an Intersect project, for which his brain was uniquely qualified: all facts of which he was completely unaware.

This time it didn’t make him stronger. It sent him into a five-year funk that had him working at the Buymore in a position for which he was vastly overqualified. He was clueless in Burbank. No ambition was stirring, not even an ounce of mojo.

I’m a nobody. I’m the supervisor of a Nerd Herd at the Buymore. Maybe one day I’ll be assistant store manager, and I don’t even know if I want that job.

Collision course. This is where we and the Intersect and Sarah find Chuck. The same thing that precipitated his descent is about to blast him from his prosaic existence into a life of fear, danger, and anxiety that will test his metal and show everyone — including himself — what he is made of … and what he is made for.

As each season progresses to the next, Chuck’s relationship with the Intersect is a growth indicator of sorts. As the Intersect goes from intrusion, to incentive, to opportunity, to crutch, to tool, then back to intrusion; we see Chuck progressing from Boy, to Cowboy, to Warrior, to Lover, to King, then Sage. (John Eldredge’s six stages of a man:)

Inseparable from this progression is the central theme that Chuck is the only suitable host for the Intersect, not just because of his special brain, but also because of his character. Chuck’s unwavering moral compass and integrity, as well as his big brain, make him uniquely qualified to host this Intersect.

Bryce to Chuck: You’ll do the right thing. You always do. That’s why I sent you the Intersect in the first place.

stopthepressesSarah is the other force in Chuck’s life, brought to him via the Intersect, that influences his growth. Whereas the Intersect is a catalytic, impersonal force that swings back and forth through Chuck’s life like a wrecking ball, causing catastrophic change and evoking responses from him, Sarah is an interactive, personal force in his life, a friend and partner (and later much more). Not just a catalyst, she participates in — and inspires — his growth as she walks with him through the aftermath of the wrecking ball. She is exactly what he needs.

Sarah’s story mirrors Chuck’s. When Bryce stole the Intersect and sent it to Chuck, the Intersect became the first domino in a cascade of events in her life as well. Chuck, as her friend and partner (and later much more), both precipitates and participates in her growth. He is exactly what she needs. What is a coming-of-age story for Chuck is reflected in Sarah as an empowerment story, as they become the man and woman they were meant to be.

And it all started with the Intersect.

Arrested Development. We join the CHUCK story where Chuck’s story and Sarah’s story converge. Here are two under-developed, incomplete (some might go so far as to say, broken) individuals: a brilliant, capable guy who has hero stamped all over his genes and his heart, but he’s living a mediocre life in a dead-end job; and a beautiful, smart, heroic woman whose life is filled with excitement and adventure but lacks the love and belonging she secretly desires. To become whole, they both need a radically different context, and an adept in that context, to inspire and nurture their own latent qualities and desires.

The Intersect provides exactly that. It brings them together — two people who would likely never even bump into each other — and forces them into unfamiliar territory with only each other to rely on. The Intersect remains a catalytic force in their story, from the day we first see them, until we leave them kissing on the beach.

So, let’s look at the highlights and turning points in Chuck and Sarah’s story and the role the Intersect played.

~ The Intrusion Period ~

GB: I wanted a private word with you. Pardon the intrusion.

C: On this moment, or on my life in general?

The Intersect invades, not just Chuck’s life, but his very being, and he receives it with resignation …

There’s nowhere I can run, is there … I can’t figure out why Bryce did this. Why he chose me.

and indifference.

I’m going to go fix some hard drives. Good luck with the spy stuff.

two weddings 20However, when the Intersect shook Chuck’s life, it dislodged an unexpected trait. All his reluctance and girlish screams belie his hero’s heart that just keeps showing up. Pick an episode, any episode, and the hero in Chuck is incapable of waiting in safety, while people he cares about (or even people he doesn’t know) are in danger.

Sarah recognizes this potential immediately.

She fights for his freedom, asks for his trust, and challenges him to step up:

Some people want to be heroes, and others have to be asked. So … Chuck, are you ready?

The Intersect threw Chuck mercilessly into the deep end of the spy pool …

Everything changed when I got an e-mail from my college buddy, Bryce Larkin. He was working for the government when he stole a whole bunch of government secrets: big important secrets; really scary, nasty, get-killed-for-having-em secrets. Next thing I know these secrets are downloaded into my brain. Which means every moment of my life is in danger.

In an even less likely maneuver, the Intersect thrust Sarah into a normal life, albeit a cover one.

Joining the CIA and giving up everything you did … did you ever think it would lead you here?

A normal life was as unfamiliar to Sarah as the spy world was to Chuck. Just as she is his handler in all things spy, he subtly becomes her handler in all things normal. (The baggage handler remark on their first date wasn’t too far off the mark.)

Over time, in this [initially] forced association, wonderful things happen between and in our heroes. The spy sees and nurtures the hero in the Nerd and inspires in him not just the desire to be more, but also the belief that he can be more.

Sarah, you’re the one that taught me that being a spy is about choosing something bigger. It’s about putting aside your own personal feelings for the greater good. I chose to be a spy for my friends and my family and you.

The Nerd sees and loves the woman in the spy and stirs in her not only the abandoned desire for a real life of love and belonging, but also the realization that she deserves that life.

Chuck, you’re a gift. You’re a gift I never dreamed I could want or need, and every day I will show you that you’re a gift that I deserve.

During this Intrusion phase, all Chuck wants is to get the Intersect out of his head and go back to his peaceful, quiet, albeit degrading life at the Buymore.

Sarah is still all about duty, which is not all bad. It’s just incomplete.

However, even in the intrusion stage, there are some pivotal moments:

Beach Heads. By the end of Wookie our heroes have established beach heads on foreign shores. By experiencing Carina, Chuck gains a whole new look at the spy life. He sees how exceptional Sarah is and begins to put aside some of his own pettiness. For the first time Chuck seems pleased with the mission’s accomplishments, and proud of his part in it.

Sarah begins to relax into the normal life and enjoy it a little more than a cover would require. By the end of Wookie, her regret that she can’t have that real life is palpable.

Intelligence Intercept. Alma Mater uncovers surprising Intel: Chuck had previous history with the Intersect; his brain is uniquely suited for the Intersect; and Bryce may have had a good reason for sending it to Chuck.

New Rules of Engagement. (Truth) There is a tiny blip of the Cowboy on our radar screen, as Chuck pushes back against the intrusion of the Intersect, if only in limited fashion. He doesn’t want a fake relationship any more, and if there’s no hope of a real one with Sarah, he’ll look elsewhere. As he does just that, a heartbroken Sarah stands on the outside of Chuck’s world looking in, watching Chuck start a real relationship … with someone else. Along with heartbreak there’s longing. Forbidden desires begin to stir, and it won’t be long until they erupt in a very unprofessional display.

Captured Rescued: The Intersect dredges its fingers through Chuck’s life again, and his fate is unilaterally decided:

The Intersect is no longer your concern, Agent Walker. Chuck is on his way to the extraction point right now. We’ve decided to transfer him to lock-down immediately.

Of course, Sarah saves Chuck from the bunker, and S1 ends with Sarah once again on the outside looking in … watching Chuck share the joy of Ellie and Awesome’s engagement. For now, Chuck is safe, and he can stay in his normal life. For now Sarah can stay with him and protect him. For now it is enough.

Go to Part 2


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38 Responses to These Are a Few of Our Favorite Themes: The Intersect

  1. Ernie Davis says:

    I like the way you personify “the intersect” as a specter (not spectre). While it started out as a plot device and a McGuffin TPTB had clearly decided that it was the Bartowski family’s Ring of Power/Frankenstein monster by season 3. It was their creation and created in them an obligation to carry the burden of it’s existence and the fallout of that existence.

    Mary lost 20 years of her life to that creation, Hartley lost most of his youth and seeing his daughter grow up, Stephen lost his life to a madman infected by the power the intersect represented and Chuck nearly lost his best friend, his wife, and his own mind due to the presence of the intersect.

    It will be fun retracing this through the seasons and stages of the show.

    Just an FYI I’ll also have a multi-part post coming next week, though probably not quite as long as Thinkling’s, and a few polls that people might find fun.

    • atcDave says:

      I’d thought of the “Ring of Power” analogy; but Frankenstein’s Monster, nice! Very fitting.

    • Ernie Davis says:

      The Ring of Power was specifically mentioned by Chris Fedak, but I thought Frankenstein an apt comparison since there was an act of creation, perhaps hubris, involved with the intersect’s origins.

    • thinkling says:

      They did create quite a back story for it, and when you add up all the damage, it’s quite impressive. Frankenstein’s monster … good comparison.

  2. atcDave says:

    Excellent write up. The break down of the different intersects seemed about right. You skipped over the Ring versions, but it’s difficult to know exactly where they fit in; maybe Shaw had a pristine 2.1? I don’t think we ever really knew much about Shaw’s “3.0”.
    But obviously those are tangential to the main story.

    I love how you introduced this. Very nice summation of how the Intersect first intrudes on Chuck’s life. I’ll look forward to having something to read for the next few days, since none of the other lazy bums at this site seem to be doing anything anymore(!).

    • Ernie Davis says:

      …none of the other lazy bums at this site seem to be doing anything anymore(!)

      Well I have written ~5,600 words on a yet to be completed multi-part post for next week.

      But then considering that I started the post in June the label might be apt. 😉

      • atcDave says:

        You haven’t earned your gruel until the post goes up!

        Still… some around here think they coast just by linking to past glories.

    • thinkling says:

      Dang, I missed one. Okay, Stephen’s twelve still works. I guess that one got left in the black box.

      • atcDave says:

        Maybe we can just argue Shaw’s first Intersect was just a plain 2.0, he was interested in the governor. Although he seemed to survive two years without it? I don’t know.

        And maybe Shaw’s 3.0 was just a 2.0 with ALL the world’s data in it. Since it never worked, we really don’t know.

      • thinkling says:

        Works for me.

      • anthropocene says:

        Shaw thought he was getting a 3.0, but only a Bartowski would have been capable of building one.

  3. Theresa says:

    tI find the Intersect as the plot device that created its own wake. It was the spark that shoved everything into motion. I’m wondering if Orion was not actually creating the intersect subconsciously to fit only Chuck. I think he recognized the power the device would have and only a righteous man would be able to wield that power. I think Orion was carefully guiding everything including getting the Intersect to Chuck via Bryce. I would have loved to seen Orion’s and Bryce’s relationship further explored.

    • thinkling says:

      Hmm, probably not. Since the first Intersect was finished before Chuck was born, it couldn’t have been for Chuck. Then later Stephen didn’t want Chuck to be involved. He relented after Chuck explained why, and built him the governor, but originally he wanted Chuck protected from all of it.

      • Theresa says:

        Agent X project was not the Intersect per se. It had no way to store any information. So my idea of Orion shaping the intersect subconsciously to work only for Chuck still holds. He overtly wanted to keep Chuck safe though.

      • thinkling says:

        The Agent X Intersect was very much an Intersect, and it’s whole purpose was to store information. Granted, being the prototype, it wouldn’t have stored near as much information as later models, but it did store quite a bit. It held an entire cover entity: complete back story, language, knowledge, culture, personality etc — everything an agent would have to know flawlessly to be convincing as someone else. Ultimately, it was removed in the same way as other Intersects, including Chuck’s, so I think it’s safe to say it was an Intersect like the others, albeit an earlier version.

        Of course, you’re absolutely right that it did indeed create its own wake, or a tidal wave … tsunami. 🙂

      • Theresa says:

        You are incorrect it did not store information it modified memories, That is not the same at all.

  4. Great write up! science is an ever evolving thing and something tells me that this idea isn’t as far fetched as it sounds, of course it won’t happen in our lifetime but the future of science as it relates to the human brain is very bright and just plain fun to think about!

    • thinkling says:

      Thanks, Josh. It’s a bit scary to think about, if it were possible to do what the Intersect could do.

      I always think of the old Disney movie The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes as a predecessor to this type of theme.

      • Ernie Davis says:

        So Kurt Russell was the first intersect.

        I remember that movie too, and when I described Chuck to my brother I used that movie to explain the intersect.

        Two funny facts about that movie. First, the “intersect” is named Dexter, which is just a little weird. Second, the computer had top secret information that put Dexter at risk from a local baddie.

      • thinkling says:

        Yeah, gambling information, if memory serves. I had forgotten that his name was Dexter, though … yeah, a little weird now, but not then.

  5. Theresa says:

    The way Agent X worked was new memories were placed in the subject but they could not flash on them. It was also why it was so hard for Orion to devise a suppression device to work. Since the memories themselves were altered not just stored like in more complete versions. This modifying memories techniques were abandoned and a new form of supplementing the memories were used instead. This is because they did not want another repeat of what happened to Hartley.

    • thinkling says:

      The first Intersect was not designed to change or replace memories. It malfunctioned (or was sabotaged), such that the cover identity took over the host. But no matter how you slice it or what you call it — memories, cover identity, whatever — it’s all information. And whether it coexists with original memories or replaces them, that information has been stored in the human brain. Hartley’s memories were not supposed to be altered. His Intersect was supposed to function just like Chuck’s — a cover identity, i.e. knowledge and information, that he could use to go undercover — uploaded into his brain. The program taking over Hartley’s personality was a malfunction, not the original design.

      Go watch Agent X and listen to Ellie’s explanation about exactly how the first Intersect was designed and how it malfunctioned. She details it to TeamB, and everyone acknowledges that Hartley was the first human Intersect.

      • Theresa says:

        Please explain why Volkoff did not flash on any information he supposedly needed? Only the intersect can issue a flash. Agent X never was capable. It is not the same at all.

      • thinkling says:

        Your view of Intersect technology is too narrow. You’re focusing to much on the flash, instead of the main concept. The underlying principle of Intersect technology is that it stores information in the human brain.

        The flash merely describes the accessing of the information, triggered by an external stimulus of some kind … not so terribly different from our memories being triggered by various stimuli.

        We absolutely do not know that Hartley never flashed. It would be more logical to assume that Hartley flashed in the beginning before his Intersect malfunctioned. But after the malfunction the information in the Intersect, i.e. the cover identity took over and suppressed Hartley’s real identity. From then on his brain had access to the Intersect information, but not his original memories, and he lived out of the Volkoff side of his brain, so to speak. When the Intersect was removed (by Decker in Cliffhanger) Hartley’s personality returned, though he had no memory of his years as Volkoff.

        An Intersect by any other name stores information in the brain.

      • Theresa says:

        Wrong it is all about the process. The Intersect has a totally different recall process. Agent X has recall like memories because they are memories. They are not using external stimuli to make the connection. These are not storing anything they are memories. Intersect stores information like computer in files. Only that particular file is opened when the right key is used. Agent X is holographic. It impinges on all stored information at once. Just like a memory because it is an advanced form of brain washing. The Intersect is not a brain washing only storage of vast information.

      • Ernie Davis says:

        Theresa, I think you are inventing a lot of things that aren’t in canon or are contradicted by canon, which is fine if you enjoy that, but some of us prefer to stick with canon, which is very clear, Hartley was the victim of a malfunctioning intersect and Volkoff was the result.

      • Theresa says:

        I tend to disagree with you and so you believe I do not have any canon to back me up? Well explain why Orion took so long to create the suppression device for Hartley when he could create a governor for Chuck and himself fairly quickly! That is a fact in Canon. Reason is Agent X did not work the same.

      • thinkling says:

        What in heaven’s name do you think memories are, if not stored information?!?

        In the Pilot Chuck told Sarah that he was “remembering things he shouldn’t be remembering.” Of course memories are stored information and are sometimes triggered by external stimuli. Hasn’t a smell or the sight of an object ever made you think of something? Memories are stored information.

        Anyway, your beef is not with me. It’s with the show runners who have made it very clear, on screen, that Agent X was the first human Intersect. Ellie got it. Chuck got it. Casey and Sarah got it. It was made very clear that what was uploaded into Hartley’s brain was the first Intersect.

        It was later removed by the very same device that removed Chuck’s Intersect and Morgan’s.

      • thinkling says:

        Thank you, Ernie.

      • thinkling says:

        Theresa, you’re not disagreeing with us. You’re disagreeing with what was presented on screen. You’re pushing a personal viewpoint, namely that what Hartley had in his head was not an Intersect, which is firmly refuted by canon. It’s established and settled in canon that the first Intersect that Stephen created was uploaded into Hartley’s brain and that that Intersect malfunctioned, taking over his own personality.

        Did Hartley’s Intersect work exactly like Chuck’s? No. It malfunctioned, so clearly there were differences. Stephen kept working on it to fix it. The Intersect was an evolving technology. Some of the details varied from one version to the next, but the principle function remained the same: to implant information into the human brain. Certainly after Ellie’s fixes, the Intersect worked differently, more compatibly with the human brain. But they were all still Intersects. The Model T and a Tesla function very differently, but they are both cars.

  6. Theresa says:

    If Hartley was using an intersect he would have been aware of his original memories. He would have never been convinced he was someone as evil as Alexei Volkoff

  7. says:

    Here is a random thought on the possibility of sabotage of the Hartley intersect. The Ray Wise character in Season 4 seemed to know exactly what was going on with Hartley/Volkoff, seems to have been in the background the entire time, and was working hard to get Vivian to take over as Volkoff. This is not canon in any way, but given his role, I wonder if he could have been involved in some sort of sabotage of this intersect to ensure that Hartley did essentially become Volkoff. That could have been interesting.

    • thinkling says:

      Good thought. I’ve always thought the same thing … that if there was sabotage and conspiracy to purposefully create Volkoff, then Riley was most likely in on it. Probably low level … an inside man to assure things went as desired and report back. And there he sill is, trying to resurrect the Volkoff empire through Vivian.

      Such fun possibilities to consider.

    • Christopher says:

      The other person that seemed to know a lot more than Volkoff was Decker. I mean was brought in rather quickly once Chuck and team were looking into it. Casey warned them about someone like Decker

  8. Theresa says:

    Yes The Lawyer knew everything. Perhaps he was placed by those who controlled Decker? Decker knew about Hartley too.

  9. Christopher says:

    As I take a break from Chuckaholics, I figured I pay a visit to you guys and talk with you on themes. As I just finished getting through Chuck vs The Gun arc of S3. I have come away with this.

    The intersect 2.0 was something of an enigma. I understand the skills sets because it would be hard to sell for Chuck to learn Kung Fu, surgery, languages and the like in 6 months. The Intersect 2.0 or like I wrote about Chuck 2.0 was a different version of Chuck. He wasn’t the same the night he downloaded it. Sarah definitely was different. I mean look at what she dealt with in that night. Bryce killed and this machine in front of her taking on 5 guys with no previous training. A shock to the system for sure.So Chuck decided that night he wanted to be a full time spy. the problem was Sarah didn’t want him to be a spy and for that Chuck was stuck. As he went on during S3 becoming Chuck 2.0 he would become a jerk, and if he didn’t have the right support staff don’t you guys think he was headed to become Volkoff. I think so, He bl

    The concept was a great idea, The execution was great until Shaw came into the picture. Now I have my own theory about The Misery Arc I would like your opinions on. Visit 3 and see the articles. Dave, you may like the theory. After all I still have love for Shaw, but for different reasons now.


    The intersect isn’t the issue as beckman said, its with Chuck. He became a jerk in S3 and for that he had some character issues. Like lying to Ellie, treating Hannah like crap and alienating his friends and family to become a spy. I thought lying to Sarah about his brain condition was one of the worst things Chuck did in S3 but thats just me.

    Very good post Thinkling, I plan to return to Chuckthisblog as i have given this site a lot of kudos on my site for the existence of Chuckaholics. Dave, Joe, Ernie and Thinkling. Your site caused me to follow my passion and create my own site.

    So, thank you for that. you guys should follow me at twitter @Chuckaddiction2 and please comment on my articles so we can build a relationship after all guys we both have the same passion for Chuck let’s share that passion.

  10. Christopher says:

    also Orions version of the intersect wasn’t the same as the 2.0 in the fact Orion himself asked what did they do with his designs. I find it funny how Bryce wanted to destroy both version after realizing how dangerous it was.

    The intersect in S5 was more for Chuck, and it cheapened the story because the idea was for a special brain to be able to upload the Intersect. For example, Suburbs gives a great example of that. All those agents were fried because of the upload. The only one that survived was Chuck. He had the original application from his youth. He was well equipped for it. The only other person I was fine with having the Intersect was Shaw because eventually the baddie has to get the Intersect.

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